[mrgrieves]

my gosh this project has dragged on too long. Beyond bad and countless black eyes for Metrolinx. Definitely a lot of noise when TYSSE went months late. Surprised not as much noise when it's Crosstown being many years overdue.

is this true, that there was more noise for TYSSE? why is that?

 

[Metroscapes]

no one can say until they identify and address all the defects.

Opaque answer from an opaque rock. But I'd believe it to be a Metrolinx statement if you didn't tell me.

 

[generalcanada]

monthly reminder that the 2020 date that the news LOVES repeating is just straight not true.

the contracted date was late 2021. that was before covid and all the lawsuits. add 6 months to a year for that.
Were still only like 1.5 year overtime on a 7 year project.

 

[crs1026]

is this true, that there was more noise for TYSSE? why is that?

TYSSE had specific events that shut down construction... e.g. a fatality and a halt to reinforce a foundation at York U and a specific contractor problem at a particular station - which led to.a point in time where the project declared it was in trouble. And that last declaration led to engagement of an oversight consultant to implement corrective action. So yeah, that project generated specific news days and headlines. And senior executive departures.
In comparison, Crosstown is just a ketchup bottle that we keep shaking in hopes something will come out. They keep assuring us that it's great ketchup, but nothing seen yet.

- Paul

 

[cplchanb]

Opaque answer from an opaque rock. But I'd believe it to be a Metrolinx statement if you didn't tell me.

can ML release a list of at the very least their top 5 defects? so far they havent even elaborated on what the serious defects are that is preventing them from even soft launching.
its literally like asking for democracy from the CCP

 

[crs1026]

Maybe they have to wait until underground water is flowing freely to see where the leaks are in the stations and tunnels so they can fix them.

Good point about the water flowing. That's been the apparent culprit for whatever wasn't right at Yonge. They may need time to gather proof that the design works. I even wondered if they need a year or two of measurement to be sure the entire underpinning won't shift or bend. There's no way the contractor will stick around for warranty work once that thing is signed off.

Edmonton built much of the guideways for their most recent line during the depths of winter, so it is very doable to finish up in bad weather.

- Paul

 

[T3G]

There was a plan to complete the Crosstown by 2020. Mind, it seems to have been dismissed as being unrealistic quite a long time ago, but there was a time when 2020 was the working date.

https://archive.ph/20130119143535/http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/news/local/article/207847--eglinton-lrt-unlikely-to-meet-2020-completion-date-ttc-report

And this came right from Metrolinx's own documents.

Wayback Machine

 

[anb]

my gosh this project has dragged on too long. Beyond bad and countless black eyes for Metrolinx. Definitely a lot of noise when TYSSE went months late. Surprised not as much noise when it's Crosstown being many years overdue.

This is definitely the opposite. The crosstown is THE prime example of the over exaggeration of construction projects in Toronto taking 20 years to finish. Its become a literal meme in Toronto culture for years now which is why you don’t hear a lot of talk about it anymore.

 

[Amare]

Verster indirectly alluded that the earliest the line will open is the end of 2024. So essentially ladies and gentlemen, dont expect to ride this until 2025.

This is the most mismanaged clown of a project i've ever seen in my lifetime, and that's saying something because this city/province have screwed up badly on many infrastructure projects but yet this one easily takes the cake.

 

[Mount Dennis Resident]

Verster indirectly alluded that the earliest the line will open is the end of 2024. So essentially ladies and gentlemen, dont expect to ride this until 2025.

This is the most mismanaged clown of a project i've ever seen in my lifetime, and that's saying something because this city/province have screwed up badly on many infrastructure projects but yet this one easily takes the cake.

Should be "city/province". The province took it over to show how to build projects "efficiently" and "inexpensively".

 

[The REAL]

Dec 7
Finally made it back to the east end and see LRV's testing as 2 pack. Counted at least 8 sets and the first time seeing them being tested. Every time I have visited the area, no cars on the line until today/

It was a patchwork of spacing between them as well directions. Moving very slowly.

I had to laugh watching 3 crew members clearing the snow from Pharmacy platforms as well spreading salt on it when no one is using it in the first place, other doing practical training to be ready for that unknown opening date. 2 other personal not part of the snow crew where doing checking of various thing on a list they had

After the crews left, had a looked at the platforms and saw a few things that have been added to the platform since my last close look at it back in 2021/22. Tap readers are wrap as well unwrap similar to other platforms I pasted. One of the 4 screens being tested wasn't working. Testing of screens various from station to stations. Golden Mile platforms show different screen testing, but the westbound display the departing LRV and show the next one in 4 minutes, when that next LRV was a minute away just about to hit the intersection.

So much for transit priority as the LRT green went to red about 30 seconds before traffic started to change like it did in 2021

Ridiculous. This is actually just as slow as the Spadina streetcars. This is going to be a big problem once this starts operating.

 

[allengeorge]

If Phil doesn't know (he wouldn't confirm '24 opening), I don't think anyone does at this stage. There are too many variables yet.

Having read the comment about needing to wait for warmer weather to make certain changes, it’s either late Fall 2024 or sometime Spring 2025. I’d be truly surprised if they opened it in the winter next year, but what do I know

 

[EnviroTO]

They need to figure out what to do with the quantum singularity that exists in the middle of the station. It isn't visible but it is located where the green arrow is pointing. Rather than deal with the fact it has sucked up Eglinton Ave West, Yonge Eglinton Centre, and the Eglinton Line, they just erected signage to point everyone in the direction of the singularity since that is where those things went.

 

[T3G]

Ridiculous. This is actually just as slow as the Spadina streetcars. This is going to be a big problem once this starts operating.

Can we not at least wait until the line has opened before passing judgment on what should and shouldn't have been done?

This forum has a BIG problem with jumping to conclusions.

 

[allengeorge]

They need to figure out what to do with the quantum singularity that exists in the middle of the station. It isn't visible but it is located where the green arrow is pointing. Rather than deal with the fact it has sucked up Eglinton Ave West, Yonge Eglinton Centre, and the Eglinton Line, they just erected signage to point everyone in the direction of the singularity since that is where those things went.

That is some bad signage. The two at the edges I got immediately. But I initially couldn't figure out what the middle one was for, finally realizing that it’s for the elevator. Up for Eglinton Ave and YEC; down for Line 5.

There absolutely must be a better way to communicate that.