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anyone heard any rumblings on how driver training or systems testing is progressing? tyia

needless to say I am, like everyone else, at a loss for why we don't have an official opening date
 
This has caused me to eat a lot of crow at home. My wife started a new job at Bayview and Eglinton last September and I was telling her that the crosstown would soon open and make her commute easier. As delays mounted, I kept telling her the opening should be just around the corner. She is still laughing at me, more than a year later.
 
anyone heard any rumblings on how driver training or systems testing is progressing? tyia

needless to say I am, like everyone else, at a loss for why we don't have an official opening date


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This has caused me to eat a lot of crow at home. My wife started a new job at Bayview and Eglinton last September and I was telling her that the crosstown would soon open and make her commute easier. As delays mounted, I kept telling her the opening should be just around the corner. She is still laughing at me, more than a year later.
I moved into the area in 2021 and at the time they said it would be done by 2022. Then 2023... then no date provided... now we're at the end of 2024 and still no date provided...
I'm not even optimistic for 2025 at this point...
 
I moved into the area in 2021 and at the time they said it would be done by 2022. Then 2023... then no date provided... now we're at the end of 2024 and still no date provided...
I'm not even optimistic for 2025 at this point...
It makes it really tough to be excited about Ontario Line or literally any other piece of infrastructure to other people when they can simply reply back about how long Crosstown has taken to be completed. Very easy to be pessimistic.
 
A friend brought me for advice when he was condo shopping at the Caledonia and Eglinton West area in November 2021.

I told him -- this is a great area, the LRT is coming soon.

Yeah...

Remind me not to seek your advice when buying a condo.......... LOL
 
I think people at least here are beginning to see the problem with the design choices taken with the ECLRT. We have a pseudo subway in the west paired up with a glorified streetcar in the east, I think operational issues will be inevitable due to the distinct modes of operation.

We may even see a splitting of the line with a well served, frequent "subway" in the western section, while we see an overcrowded and slow tram service in Scarborough due to at grade operations, lack of TSP, etc. Which would then further justify the existence of an "anti-Scaborough" conspiracy at city hall (which looks more true everyday if I'm being honest).
Not disagreeing about the likelihood of operational issues (and let's all hope that we're pleasantly surprised because Toronto transit really needs a good news story right now), but I don't think people here are just beginning to see the shortcomings of the ECLRT. They've been apparent since the project's inception.

I'm dreading many, many collisions with passenger vehicles in the at-grade sections, especially in the early years.
 
I'm dreading many, many collisions with passenger vehicles in the at-grade sections, especially in the early years.
Hypothetical question, but if there is a collision with a vehicle at the at-grade portion of the line, does that mean the entire underground and grade separated stretches of the central and western portions of the line have to halt operations?
 
Hypothetical question, but if there is a collision with a vehicle at the at-grade portion of the line, does that mean the entire underground and grade separated stretches of the central and western portions of the line have to halt operations?
No, that would be an awful design flaw. Trains drive both directions and there are several track crossovers, allowing zonal isolation in response to incidents.
 
No, that would be an awful design flaw. Trains drive both directions and there are several track crossovers, allowing zonal isolation in response to incidents.
The above ground portion doesn't use cbtc does it? In Ottawa if a train breaks down they all stop everywhere for a few minutes while they reconfigure the system to route around
 
I believe going Eastbound automated train control would stop at Laird Station and the driver would manually operate from there to Kennedy Station.

There are cross-overs either side of Laird, plus an "storage track" E of Laird where drivers can swap cabs.
Also there are cross-overs E of Science Centre:
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The likely scenario would be trains short-turning at a signalled crossover, possibly using the tail tracks where these exist. But service would halt in whatever section is blocked by the accident recovery and investigation. It is unlikely that TTC would attempt "single track" operation in the aboce ground portion.

- Paul
 

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