Agard
Active Member
It's not just frustrating that we have this empty lot, it's that they also showed us a beautiful design that will probably never get built. It's as if they're mocking us: "look what we could do if we cared"
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JMatt88
Active Member
Ouch, did they elaborate on that comment? Are they true with that assessment?
Avenuer
Senior Member
Lol the only thing happening here is the country's highest population growth for a major city. They are missing out.
David A
Senior Member
I don't know where the person who said that comes from, but it sounds the like condescending type of comment from the "centre of the universe", that attitude is really nothing new, has been like that for decades.
Actually as pointed out, people are leaving there in droves, but perhaps the most smug and unaware just haven't realized it yet.
BASE
Active Member
Very weird take indeed given it is the 4th largest city in the country and 5th or 6th largest (depending on the day) metro with a growing population, rising real estate prices, and pretty good average incomes. Edmonton needs a PR makeover it appears.
MattPT
Active Member
I know this is all just based on some random anecdote, but to me this points to the irreparable damage our provincial government is doing. Why would big money even consider a backwards disgusting province of climate change denying, oil loving, trump supporting separatists…………………… I know that’s not Edmonton, and hopefully not the majority of Alberta… but that’s what we are because of the idiot Smith. There is so much intangible damage that’s being done on top of the obvious. Wake the fuck up.
Avenuer
Senior Member
Is Edmonton larger than Ottawa-Gatineau proper now? I could see that with the wild population growth we've been seeing.
1. Toronto
2. Montreal
3. Calgary
4. Edmonton?
5. Ottawa-Gatineau?
constance_chlore
Senior Member
If this is a ranking of cities proper (as implied by the absence of Vancouver) note that Ottawa and Gatineau are also separate cities.
Avenuer
Senior Member
Fair point, Gatineau would be included in the CMA for Ottawa. With that in mind, it's definitely likely Edmonton proper is larger than Ottawa now.
ChazYEG
Senior Member
No, according to population estimates for July 2024, Ottawa had around 1.26M and Edmonton 1.196M (both city proper).
The Edmonton CMA might've caught up with Ottawa-Gatineau CMA by December, but as of July 2024, estimates had Ottawa-Gatineau at 1.66M and Edmonton at 1.63M.
Now, mind you, I believe right before the 2021 Census there was an addition to the Ottawa-Gatineau CMA, and there was some consolidation of smaller municipalities into Ottawa proper, as well, if I am not mistaken.
Edmonton, for now at least, stands as both the 5th largest city and metro areas in Canada
Edit:
After looking at conflicting information, I have gathered that Ottawa proper was at 1.097M by December 2024 (City of Ottawa's estimates), making Edmonton proper the 4th largest municipality in Canada by about 100k people.
thommyjo
Senior Member
You do realize a lot of the people who control capital and investment are more conservative leaning on average, right?
And the even more conservative culture of Calgary isn’t struggling to get investment.
So I don’t think your hypothesis is correct.
Stevey_G
Active Member
Yup. Sometimes people don’t have good vision for leading indicators. Edmonton’s rocking.
Barnaby
Senior Member
Any Toronto developers that aren't overwhelmed with impending bankruptcy are completely aware of the stability of Edmonton and Calgary. I wouldn't worry about the opposition to investing here from them, many don't have the money to invest anywhere.
MattPT
Active Member
There’s a difference between conservative, and whatever the hell UCP is. I’m talking about Alberta as a brand. And at the moment it’s embarrassing. Calgary has a stronger brand than Edmonton because of head offices, the mountains, the zoo, Calgary tower, and maybe to a lesser extent nowadays, the olympics? Edmonton is just the “other” city in the province of buffoons.
Whatup
Active Member
Embarrassing to who? People like you and people who think like you -but there are many people who don't think like you. Actually, if you leave Edmonton and this forum most people aren't embarrassed by the UCP and thats why then win elections in this province - people you snobbishly refer to as "buffoons". I think its embarrassing for Canada that after 10 years of the worst government in the nations history, almost zero percent GDP per capita growth over the past 10 years, rising anti-semitism, rising crime rates and crazy catch and release crime policies, ridiculous anti-resource policies that actively try to prohibit our number one industry in this country (hence our low GDP per capita growth) - and so many scandals I can't remember how many - that so many Canadians are still willing to vote for elite banker climate doomer and tax advocate Mark Carney, who will be a rock bottom disaster for this country. Now thats embarrassing - but thats just the way I think.