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Not sure I understand the logic here. These lights will only be in use past sundown true. But a fountain would only be functional in the Summer. Why is one a necessity and the other a waste?
Day versus night activities. Nobody hangs around a park at night - especially in winter - because there's nothing to do. So what's the purpose of the light? Only use that I can think of is to potentially hi-light some ice sculptures. A fountain can be enjoyed all day in summer by visitors.
 
Well, I’m originally from Montreal, and I can tell you that a lot of people go to parks and even stroll around in parks after sundown! Will it be the case for this park? Maybe not right away, but if we continue attracting the right demographic such as students downtown, I can definitely see it being used at night during summer. Give it 5–7 years, and you might be shocked.
Attracted by the light! lol. Got it. (ps: nothing personal but the architectural firm that did the library was from Montreal too, so let's hope that you're right)
 
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Well, I’m originally from Montreal, and I can tell you that a lot of people go to parks and even stroll around in parks after sundown! Will it be the case for this park? Maybe not right away, but if we continue attracting the right demographic such as students downtown, I can definitely see it being used at night during summer. Give it 5–7 years, and you might be shocked.
Day versus night activities. Nobody hangs around a park at night - especially in winter - because there's nothing to do. So what's the purpose of the light? Only use that I can think of is to potentially hi-light some ice sculptures. A fountain can be enjoyed all day in summer by visitors.
It’s a massive over generalization to say nobody would use the park after dark, especially considering that the sun sets by the time a lot of people get home from work in the winter. Keep in mind that there is a lot of residential construction around the park, so even if the park isn’t drawing visitors from beyond Downtown, there are people who are and will be living right on the doorstep of the park, particularly students (considering the new housing incentive). They might use that park at all times of day for the most mundane activities like walking their dogs, going for a jog or just clearing their head (and especially if they’re students, maybe add in some weed, booze or late-night make-out sessions), and a cool ambient lighting feature would be heavily appreciated by those users. Yes, the park could have been enhanced with a fountain, but remember that it was created first and foremost as an amenity to make this area of downtown more liveable, not necessarily as a tourist draw, and it still does a fantastic job as a local park for neighbours. Most neighbourhoods in the city don’t have a basic water feature anyway, and when we get in a better budget position, there will be room by the park for a fountain. And that would be in addition to Churchill Square and the Leg, which have very popular water features already.
 
Day versus night activities. Nobody hangs around a park at night - especially in winter - because there's nothing to do. So what's the purpose of the light? Only use that I can think of is to potentially hi-light some ice sculptures. A fountain can be enjoyed all day in summer by visitors.
As well as fountains, I love ice sculptures! Many think Edmonton is such a cold city, but in fact our winter weather can be quite variable.

Ironically, nothing seems to bring about warm spell even in our coldest months like having ice sculptures out. Its like taking your car to the car wash seems to lead to rain.
 
what's with the fountain obsession on here? I mean, I love fountains as much as the next guy, but let's face it...we live in a place that has winter 6 months of the year. I think this ribbon will blow people away when it's actually set up and in use. You'll see some funky light work that will mimic the northern lights etc. Much more suited to our climate and dark winter nights, in my opinion. And a fountain isn't going to be super instagrammable and won't draw people from across the city to come see it, but this ribbon just might. It'll be cool, very cool. That's just my prediction though
I also think that it will add much needed light in those darker months. And thankfully, there are safety factors related to that.
 
It’s a massive over generalization to say nobody would use the park after dark, especially considering that the sun sets by the time a lot of people get home from work in the winter. Keep in mind that there is a lot of residential construction around the park, so even if the park isn’t drawing visitors from beyond Downtown, there are people who are and will be living right on the doorstep of the park, particularly students (considering the new housing incentive). They might use that park at all times of day for the most mundane activities like walking their dogs, going for a jog or just clearing their head (and especially if they’re students, maybe add in some weed, booze or late-night make-out sessions), and a cool ambient lighting feature would be heavily appreciated by those users. Yes, the park could have been enhanced with a fountain, but remember that it was created first and foremost as an amenity to make this area of downtown more liveable, not necessarily as a tourist draw, and it still does a fantastic job as a local park for neighbours. Most neighbourhoods in the city don’t have a basic water feature anyway, and when we get in a better budget position, there will be room by the park for a fountain. And that would be in addition to Churchill Square and the Leg, which have very popular water features already.
Some good points made but I'm certain that empirical data on park usage would confirm that the vast majority of visits to parks are made during the day. At this point its not even clear if the city will permit the park to be open after dark. Its usage could be limited to daylight hours to prevent the establishment of encampments. It would be interesting to know what the city administrators in camera discussions on the park were because there's some ambiguity on what the park's mandate actually is. To me it appears to have changed from a tradition park designed for R&R to more of an events driven festival park. I think your making a mistake believing that it's a neighborhood park because the amenities being constructed point to a festival park.
 
Attracted by the light! lol. Got it. (ps: nothing personal but the architectural firm that did the library was from Montreal too, so let's hope that you're right)
If you haven’t been to Montreal, I highly recommend visiting. In the summer, people flock to parks even those that are just open green spaces with trees and benches. After work, you’ll see people drinking wine, playing basketball, or just relaxing and smoking weed. This can last until midnight in some neighborhoods. Also, keep in mind that Montreal gets much less sunlight than here by 9 p.m., it’s already dark.

Most parks don’t really have much beyond trees, but they’re still full of life. The parks and populations are larger there, sure, but who ever said you need big attractions to draw people in? As long as the space is green and safe, SOME people will be there after dark.
 
Honestly, why don't we fence places like this with decorative fencing like in Europe and lock it up overnight.'

Nothing good happens after pint 3 or after 2am.
Good point. TBH I am concerned the location may also lead to more wear and tear (aka vandalism or damage) if there isn't some control over access especially later in the evening or at night.

Sometimes I wonder if we can have nice things downtown. I would like to believe we can, but we also have to adequately maintain and protect them.
 

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