Best direction for the Green line at this point?

  • Go ahead with the current option of Eau Claire to Lynbrook and phase in extensions.

    Votes: 40 60.6%

  • Re-design the whole system

    Votes: 21 31.8%

  • Cancel it altogether

    Votes: 5 7.6%
  • Total voters
    66
The desired provincial alignment is at-grade from the downtown core to Seton.
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Do they mean "above ground" or actually "at-grade"? If the latter, does that mean the section south of the Event Centre is subject to change as well? Inglewood/Ramsay through Crossroads is currently elevated.

You can't cross the CPKC tracks at grade anyway, so perhaps this means something like an underpass, which is not a tunnel and not elevated?
 
thecivilengineer said:
As far as i know AECON is contactor and not designing firm which only do construction and not involved in design project. Might be AECOM?
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Most likely, they replace WSP which was the main design/engineering firm for Bow Transit Connector.

Aecom designed the Valley line in Edmonton - which looks extremely similar to what the UCP wants to do with the Green line.
 
badc0ffee said:
Do they mean "above ground" or actually "at-grade"? If the latter, does that mean the section south of the Event Centre is subject to change as well? Inglewood/Ramsay through Crossroads is currently elevated.

You can't cross the CPKC tracks at grade anyway, so perhaps this means something like an underpass, which is not a tunnel and not elevated?
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I think they simply mean the downtown terminus/7th ave connection would be at-grade.
 
Perhaps a very cheap option:

move underpass from 6 St SE to 5 St SE and build it big enough for both the train and vehicle lanes. Cars come up for 9th Ave; train comes up on the north side and terminates on the 400 block until they figure out actual integration with 7th. Perhaps easiest done by running diagonally across the surface lot there (pretty much the only block in EV without a DP right now...I wonder who owns it? CMLC?)
 
So they're using one of the companies from the runner up bid?
Bow Transit Connectors is made up of Barnard Constructors of Canada LP, Flatiron Constructors Canada Ltd. and WSP Canada Inc.

City Link Partners is composed of Aecon Infrastructure Management Inc., Dragados Canada Inc., Acciona Infrastructure Canada Inc., Parsons Inc. and AECOM Canada Ltd.
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I'd imagine it will be reanalyszing the downtown access studies from the past, with the elevated Gray group alignment considered.

This is good as it should flag and warn about capacity issues on 7th if more demand, whether by transfers or shared use, are placed on 7th from City Hall.
 
My first thought yesterday was, is the city not overreacting a little bit? But then I though about it and I guess the Province did wake up from a nap and had a change of heart, and then did step on the City's toes by pulling funding and hiring the engineering firm they didn't hire overnight.

Second thought was, is there no pause button? Maybe there isn't.

What are the Green Line Board and other people working on the Green Line supposed to do until January. I mean, if you're the winning bidder what are you supposed to do sit around and wait for your competitor to tell you what to do?

I still don't have any idea what AECOM's scope of work is? A "new alignment" is so vague. C'mon MacVicar ask some follow ups or call the premier or minister's staff.

There was decent work done from Eau Claire to Shepard. Maybe AECOM is doing high level on Shepard to Seton and Grand Central Shitstorm to Downtown? It is not hard for the province to give us, the public, an idea of what is actually on the table here.

I'm really tired of the brainstorming of what could change leaking out throughout little individual briefings. Fuck off or tell us what you hired AECOM to do, through a non-competitive contract btw. Really all AECOM will be able to give them is napkin math so good luck to the province actually building anything for the price they give you.
 
I predicted Smith would do this from the start. So tired of being ruled by an impulsive, Dunning Krueger, Facebook meme believing dumbass. How can AECOM even provide a proper report in 2 months when it took YEARS to get to where we are now?

Curious how it will be presented if it doesn’t fully confirm Smith and Dreeshat’s belief that 7th ave can actually handle more traffic.
 
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