The Star has an article today focusing on the difference Dunn House is making, by looking into the life of one particular resident.


Jason Miles was an addict from early in life, but for a period of time, while gainfully employed, he managed a half-decent life; then he lost that job and things quickly spiraled downwards.

Addiction, overdoses, theft and other criminal behavior, in/out of hospitals, shelters and jail.

The Star who spoke w/him on the record and with access to some of his records.........estimated that he conservatively cost the 'system' $260,000 in his last year prior to moving in to Dunn House.

That including ER Visits, in-patient time in hospital, six months in shelters and time in jail, amongst other things. It doesn't include the damages to various properties as a result of his criminal conduct.

Subsequently, Mr. Miles has apparently turned his life around. He's been sober for many months now, has had no new brushes w/the law, has gone back to school to finish obtaining his HS diploma at the age of 43 and is hoping to be gainfully employed, possibly at UHN helping others like him.

The cost of housing him and supporting him over the last year, estimated at $48,000, not cheap, but a whole lot less than $260,000 the year prior.

My sincere congratulations to Mr. Miles on his efforts to straighten out, I wish him all the best; and some special thoughts for Dr. Andrew Boozary of UHN who was the driver behind this idea (Dunn House) which has proven so useful.

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A moment here to think that while Mr. Miles case will not be the universal one.........to the extent it is representative of even 5,000 people among Toronto's homeless population, this would indicate an annualized savings of over 1 Billion dollars if were able to assist those 5,000 people in the same way.

The direct cost of Dunn House (operating) at the scale that would service 5,000 people over one year is $240,000,000, that's about 1/3 of what Toronto spends on Shelters every single year. Put another way, it would be a huge net savings.

The cost to build Dunn House was $14,000,000 or about $274,000 a bed ( on hospital land that was not paid for, for the project)

But if you want to think of what that looks like at scale, its 1.4B to build out 5,000 beds provided we can do so on 'free' land.

I don't know that we need that number as the intention is for this housing to be transitional in nature.

But I want to point out how shockingly little it is in the context of what we're spending doing this wrong.


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Dunn House, Phase 2 just got funding from the Feds to go ahead, with operating funds from the province to follow.

Same campus, 54 beds/units.

Good news.


@Paclo is notified, in part, to assess whether there will be a thread split.

@HousingNowTO since I expect he will have all the tea to spill here.

From the above:

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Now we need Unity Health to open one of these.
 
Dunn House, Phase 2 just got funding from the Feds to go ahead, with operating funds from the province to follow.

Same campus, 54 beds/units.

Good news.


@Paclo is notified, in part, to assess whether there will be a thread split.

@HousingNowTO since I expect he will have all the tea to spill here.

From the above:

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Now we need Unity Health to open one of these.
Yes, it is good news that they are expanding on-site - not sure exactly WHERE on the UHN lands they are going to put it.

However, on the cost-per-door side, $21.6-MILLION for 54 x new accessible studios (at approx ~350 sq ft per studio) is running $400-K per studio.

That sounds like a really high considering that this is supposed to be a repeat of an existing modular template that the City has now built hundreds of units of since 2020..?

For comparison, this ATCO modular affordable studios development in Downtown Calgary that we visited in the summer only cost $250-K per studio as a "turn-key" project -
 
Yes, it is good news that they are expanding on-site - not sure exactly WHERE on the UHN lands they are going to put it.

However, on the cost-per-door side, $21.6-MILLION for 54 x new accessible studios (at approx ~350 sq ft per studio) is running $400-K per studio.

That sounds like a really high considering that this is supposed to be a repeat of an existing modular template that the City has now built hundreds of units of since 2020..?

For comparison, this ATCO modular affordable studios development in Downtown Calgary that we visited in the summer only cost $250-K per studio as a "turn-key" project -

A quick look up page shows the last version of Dunn House ran 274k per unit.

As that was well below what the City was able to hit, I would expect it to rise in cost over time, all things being equal. Construction costs though have actually declined over the last 12 months in Toronto, so....it's a bit fuzzy.

But yes, 400k exceeds any reasonable cost inflation I would anticipate.
 
A quick look up page shows the last version of Dunn House ran 274k per unit.

As that was well below what the City was able to hit, I would expect it to rise in cost over time, all things being equal. Construction costs though have actually declined over the last 12 months in Toronto, so....its a bit fuzzy.

But yes, 400k exceeds any reasonable cost inflation I would anticipate.
My only assumption is that possibly UHN have now upped the design and durability specifications on the new studio units to a more "medical / institutional" like standard as they explictly target "Homeless Seniors" w/ higher accessibility standards, more common / services spaces, etc.

Will be able to compare the two designs (Phase 1 -vs- Phase 2) more once they submit planning documents for DUNN 2.0.
 
Construction costs though have actually declined over the last 12 months in Toronto, so....its a bit fuzzy.

The vast majority of construction price decreases in the last year are in the concrete and glazing trades - neither of which make up a great percentage of the costs in these modular type builds.
 

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