FYI @drum118 re: Steeles construction. They're doing utility relocation at the intersection on the sides the same way they did around the Ray Lawson area and such. They cannot extend the guideway past Ray Lawson until the remainder of utilities is relocated and the roads are resurfaced because they need to shift lanes. That's evidenced in the photos I took yesterday. Though I'm glad it's Amico doing it and not BOT.

Is it me, or is this project just moving exceptionally slowly? It seems we've been seeing photos of uncomplete and not yet started sections for years! It didn't feel that way for Finch.
You've got to remember that both Brampton/Mississauga city councils had different interpretations of how things should be done. Brampton council was being hounded by the old guard that didn't want the guideway above ground because it would affect their property value. They wanted to run it in alternate routes down McLaughlin/Kennedy Road that would avoid the downtown corridor and become a really weird way to connect to the LRT as opposed to running it to downtown Brampton to actually benefit riders. This stalled development on Brampton's end while Mississauga was full steam ahead.

Once Brampton came back to the table, it was years later, and Mississauga planned to do a loop around MCC (at least I believe it was MCC). Then ML came back and said no extension to downtown Brampton, no loop around MCC. A few years after that when construction was well under way, Doug Ford announced that Metrolinx was going to build the tunnelled portion of the LRT to downtown Brampton, and the loop around MCC as part of phase two.

Another issue, if you've followed this thread as long as the others have, you'd know that BOT construction that was selected by the Mobilinx consortium appeared to be woefully underskilled. They appeared to be underskilled so much so that some of their work with the line had to be completely ripped up and replaced because it was out of spec. This appeared to be both Metrolinx / BOT construction dropping the ball since Metrolinx should have been available when work was being done, not inspecting it once it was completed. and saying hey you screwed up.

Because of this, we had Amico picking up where BOT left off, and either Amico or Metrolinx was bringing in dedicated rail companies to essentially inspect the work, and/or guide construction staff on specifications handed down from the designers. That's essentially what happened around the Topflight intersection, and some other parts of the guideway. They had multiple dedicated rail companies come out to essentially measure everything, mount everything the way it should have been mounted in the intersection, and wash their hands of the project.

To your point though, it seems like the project is moving exceptionally slowly because the same things only *appear* to be posted multiple times, when it's moreso about the detail in the photos that are posted, especially when the discussions I've witnessed here are, "hey, did you notice so and so intersection had so and so going on?" That much, and it appears that @drum118 is also getting the inside scoop while on the ground with the crews.

There's more to the story, but there's a lot of mismanagement and areas where the ball was dropped many times. I have to hope when phase two happens that we have an actual crew that has learned from the first phase and can actually do better moving forward.
 
I'm just going by the time elapsed since we first saw photos of them digging up the road, compared to the (albeit shorter) Finch.

How Metrolinx hasn't learned the lesson that they actually have to have inspectors out there frequently, I don't know.
Construction got underway summer of 2019 six years ago.

It been stated by trades that the same problem ION LRT had during the building of it is still taking place on Hurontario today.
 
Is it me, or is this project just moving exceptionally slowly? It seems we've been seeing photos of uncomplete and not yet started sections for years! It didn't feel that way for Finch.
I drove the length of the stretch between steeles ave and the city centre loop area. I was shocked by how much of the section north of the 407 is nowhere close to finished or even installing of track.

They need to throw all the resources from the finch and eglinton lines at this once those two are open to get this to a testing state in the next 2 years
 
Is it me, or is this project just moving exceptionally slowly? It seems we've been seeing photos of uncomplete and not yet started sections for years! It didn't feel that way for Finch.
Oh it's not just you. I live right by Hurontario on Elm Drive, and trust me it is extremely slow.

Actually that is not quite. It's not so much that it's slow, as we go looooong periods of NOTHING happening. This summer very little work was done. All the work has been since Fall started. (I'm exaggerating a bit but the point is the summer was way too quiet).
 
Construction got underway summer of 2019 six years ago.

It been stated by trades that the same problem ION LRT had during the building of it is still taking place on Hurontario today.
And yet the similar length ION LRT started in summer 2014 and opened less than 5 years later in 2019. Trial running started in late 2017 and early 2018 after 3-4 years of construction.

Meanwhile on the somewhat shorter Finch West LRT started in 2019, opening about 6.5 years later. Track was completed by October 2023 - just over 4 years. Test running started in May 2022 for a short section of track, extending to the entire route by May 2024.

So Hurontario is running much slower - the earliest opening now is probably 2028 ... about 9 years. Much slower than the other mostly surface lines.

Hopefully the Hamilton LRT and the Line 10 extension to Brampton go smoother.
 
Construction got underway summer of 2019 six years ago.

It been stated by trades that the same problem ION LRT had during the building of it is still taking place on Hurontario today.
Just imagine there was some entity that people could work for that would provide them work for their entire life with good benefits and a good pension.
Ah the days of working for the city/town/region, etc. Now it is all contracted out, and look at the mess.
 
With Dundas station renamed to TMU, I wonder if the Dundas & Hurontario stop will be renamed just Dundas?

I shudder to think at what Metrolinx comes up as for stop names on the Hurontario line. Even to now the project site shows that stop names are subject to change. What are they going to call Eglinton?
 
I shudder to think at what Metrolinx comes up as for stop names on the Hurontario line. Even to now the project site shows that stop names are subject to change. What are they going to call Eglinton?
Mississauga Uptown since the city is calling the area.Uptown
 
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I shudder to think at what Metrolinx comes up as for stop names on the Hurontario line. Even to now the project site shows that stop names are subject to change. What are they going to call Eglinton?
I've occasionally seen the city refer to the Dundas and Hurontario intersection as Four Corners.

(EDIT: Cooksville-Dundas would probably work too if you wanted to differentiate it from Cooksville GO)
 
A couple of cooksville captures from Saturday:
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Recent article:


Relevant extracts:

The most-recent update provided by Metrolinx in August indicated that work at 33 of the 55 intersections along the line had been completed along with eight of the 19 stations.

“It was great to see that on Hurontario close to Steeles you finally start seeing a lot of construction there and everything, and I just wanted an update on timelines in terms of has Metrolinx shared any further timelines on when they’ll complete the Hurontario route?” asked Medeiros.

The short answer Medeiros received was “no.”

“Metrolinx has been going through an exercise, a lot of commercial discussions with Mobilinx — the consortium that’s constructing the current LRT — (and) we know that they’re nearing the end of those commercial discussions and are kind of re-baselining the schedule,” Director of Transit Development Doug Rieger told council.

In addition to the first phase of the Hazel McCallion LRT already under construction, Medeiros also asked if the provincial government has provided any timeline estimates for the announced tunnelled LRT extension into downtown Brampton and the Queen Street bus rapid transit (BRT) line.

Ontario Premier Doug Ford announced in January that the province would fund Brampton’s long-sought-after downtown LRT extension, which will extend the Hazel McCallion Line to the Brampton Innovation GO District station with part of the extension running underground through a tunnel.

The Queen Street BRT line has been in the pre-construction phase for some time, but as with the downtown LRT extension, details on construction timelines have remained thin.

“We’ve got some indication from them, but nothing is out in the public yet. We’re hoping, and we’ve been asking for almost two years now for them to come and provide some updates to council on the various projects that they’ve got working in Brampton,” Rieger said.

“We’re hoping that they will be coming in Q1 of next year sometime to provide that update. It would be on the current construction. Hopefully, they’ll have some more timelines on when they’re kind of forecasting when the operation will be in place (and) the status of the LRT extension.”

“We know that they’re gearing up (and) we’ve had some internal discussions with staff now, so we know they’re gearing up (on the extension) and again hopefully will have some timelines as to how they’re progressing with that. As well as the Queen BRT project, which has kind of been on hiatus for the last year,” Rieger added.
 
Recent article:


Relevant extracts:
Everyone is wasting their breath asking ML anything about any of their projects and a timeline let alone a date. We have seen this time after time on Line 5 and Line 6 as well other ones.

Nov 26
Rebar frames are being place in the guidewys on both side of the still close 407 bridge for the OS poles supports.

Dugging up the track east of the switches on Topflight still taking place with nothing taking place where the saw cutting took place. New traffic lights poles are almost ready to be install.

Small crew working on the crossover area.

Crew working on the trackwork for the pad area south of of Derry.

Skyway completely tarp and hard to say if the intersection will be open this weekend and a few days ahead of schedule.

Crew working on the trackwork for World Dr.

Trackwork in place for the 401 overpass but about 150' of trackwork still to be installed at the north end not exposed to the air over the 401. Will not be surprise to see concrete poured for it in the next two weeks.

Couldn't get a good look at the trackwork south of Sq One Dr to the station but crew working on the southbound track.

Looks like all the trackwork from Robert Speck to Burhamthorpe has been poured in place.

Trackwok taking place for the Burnhamthorpe station area along with rails being splice together. By mid December all the trackwork from Burhamthorpe to Central Pkwy will be poured in place.

Hillcrest intersection was seeing the base poured on Saturday and no work taking place today.

King St intersection is mostly dug out.

Trackwork taking place from the Queensway to the Fire Station temporary driveway and we may see concrte pour next week to anchor the track in place as well the new driveway for the Fire Station

We are seeing some work done now that was suppoed to be done by the end of 2024.
 
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We are seeing some work done now that was suppoed to be done by the end of 2024.

This is what I'm seeing here as well. Amico seems hard at work with utilities that should otherwise have been done long ago.

With the incoming snow, it makes me wonder just how much work they'll do.
 

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