[turbanplanner]

But it slows you down, which is the point.

Everything has to be balanced, if you end up with more sideswipes, is that really a successful change?

There was a reason they don’t just put massive speed bump everywhere!

 

[junctionist]

Everything has to be balanced, if you end up with more sideswipes, is that really a successful change?

There was a reason they don’t just put massive speed bump everywhere!

You don’t end up with more sideswipes because nothing gets drivers to drive more attentively than the possibility of damaging their own vehicles.

 

[turbanplanner]

You don’t end up with more sideswipes because nothing gets drivers to drive more attentively than the possibility of damaging their own vehicles.

This is clearly not reality lmao, otherwise you'd NEVER have reckless drivers, yet the city is full of them!

 

[reinventingthewheel]

You don’t end up with more sideswipes because nothing gets drivers to drive more attentively than the possibility of damaging their own vehicles.

This is clearly not reality lmao, otherwise you'd NEVER have reckless drivers, yet the city is full of them!

Sorry but you’re dead wrong on this one. For many years (more recently in North America) studies have correlated wider lane widths with higher travel speeds. Here are a couple good resources to do the talking for me, one to scratch the surface and one more in depth and data driven:

NACTO (National Association of City Transportation Officials) Design Guide: Lane Width

Urban Arterial Lane Width Versus Speed and Crash Rates: A Comprehensive Study of Road Safety

Even the City of Toronto acknowledges these facts in a Lane Width Guideline I just found:

There are many benefits of appropriately sizing and reducing lane widths. Research conducted by various organizations has found that there is a direct correlation between lane widths and vehicle speeds.

Wide lanes allow for and can encourage vehicles to travel at excessively high speeds. Implementing lane widths that are not excessively wide encourages drivers to travel slower and not exceed the speed limit resulting in reduced impact speed in the event of a collision and provides drivers with more reaction time.

Also it’s really not up for debate in this particular thread. If you have a response I would leave it in the Road Safety & Vision Zero thread.

 

[turbanplanner]

Sorry but you’re dead wrong on this one. For many years (more recently in North America) studies have correlated wider lane widths with higher travel speeds. Here are a couple good resources to do the talking for me, one to scratch the surface and one more in depth and data driven:

NACTO (National Association of City Transportation Officials) Design Guide: Lane Width

Urban Arterial Lane Width Versus Speed and Crash Rates: A Comprehensive Study of Road Safety

Even the City of Toronto acknowledges these facts in a Lane Width Guideline I just found:


Also it’s really not up for debate in this particular thread. If you have a response I would leave it in the Road Safety & Vision Zero thread.

I respectfully disagree and will talk about it more in the other thread. I think Toronto is Unique and a lot of stuff goes out the window in our city.