hawc said:
I gots no problem with a parking garage. Families arrive in cars. I know we dream that they come by GO Train and TTC and bicycles and pogo sticks, but rude awakening - families travel in cars
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This is just not true. Look at the amount of families on the TTC and GO everyday. And if you really want to see families on transit, just take the GO train during the CNE.
 
Tyrang said:
It isn't fair to compare to CNE. Everyone around GTA gathers around CNE in 10 days, it is just impossible to not take transit
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I wasn’t just referring to the CNE.

And either way, the idea that families just don’t use transit is still false. Many clearly do with or without the CNE.
 
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northyorker1 said:

Request for Proposals Issued for Ontario Science Centre Relocation​

January 27, 2025
Infrastructure Ontario has invited three teams to respond to a request for proposals (RFP) to design, build, finance and maintain the new Ontario Science Centre project.
These teams were selected from the Request for Qualifications stage that was posted publicly in May 2024 and closed in August 2024. A rigorous evaluation process, including criteria such as design and construction capability, experience, qualified personnel and financial capacity to deliver a project of this size and scope was undertaken to pre-qualify the following teams to be invited to bid on the RFP:
DiscoverON Partners:
  • Applicant Leads: Fengate Capital Management Ltd and Pomerleau Capital Inc.
  • Design Team: Cumulus Architects Inc and Daoust Lestage Lizotte Stecker
  • Construction Team: Pomerleau Inc.
  • Facilities Management: Honeywell Limited
  • Financial Advisor: National Bank Financial, Inc.
EllisDon Infrastructure:
  • Applicant Lead: EllisDon Capital Inc.
  • Design Team: Belvedere Architecture and BDP Quadrangle Architects Limited
  • Construction Team: EllisDon Corporation
  • Facilities Management: EllisDon Facilities Services Inc
  • Financial Advisor: EllisDon Capital Inc.
Ontario Science Partners:
  • Applicant Leads: John Laing Limited, Sacyr Infrastructure Canada Inc, and Amico Major Projects Inc.
  • Design Team: Hariri Inc & D. Pontarini Inc, Snohetta Architecture, Landscape Architecture P.C.
  • Construction Team: Sacyr Canada Inc, and Amico Design Build Inc.
  • Facilities Management: Johnson Controls Canada L.P
  • Financial Advisor: N/A
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RFP closed last week with the winning bid to be announced early 2026 - https://www.renewcanada.net/request-for-proposals-closed-for-new-ontario-science-centre/
 

Request for Proposals Closed for New Ontario Science Centre

The Request for Proposals (RFP) stage has closed for teams submitting bids to design, build, finance and maintain the new Ontario Science Centre.
www.infrastructureontario.ca www.infrastructureontario.ca
From IO

DiscoverON Partners:

  • Applicant Leads: Fengate Capital Management Ltd. and Pomerleau Capital Inc.
  • Design Team: Cumulus Architects Inc. and Daoust Lestage Lizotte Stecker
  • Construction Team: Pomerleau Inc.
  • Facilities Management:  Honeywell Limited
  • Financial Advisor: National Bank Financial, Inc.
EllisDon Infrastructure:

  • Applicant Lead: EllisDon Capital Inc.
  • Design Team: Belvedere Architecture and BDP Quadrangle Architects Limited
  • Construction Team: EllisDon Corporation
  • Facilities Management: EllisDon Facilities Services Inc.
  • Financial Advisor: EllisDon Capital Inc.
Ontario Science Partners:

  • Applicant Leads: John Laing Limited, Sacyr Infrastructure Canada Inc. and Amico Major Projects Inc.
  • Design Team: Hariri Inc. & D. Pontarini Inc., Snohetta Architecture, Landscape Architecture P.C.
  • Construction Team: Sacyr Canada Inc, and Amico Design Build Inc.
  • Facilities Management: Johnson Controls Canada L.P.
  • Financial Advisor: N/A
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Yes - those exact firms were posted in the post I quoted
 
UtakataNoAnnex said:
I think they were responsible for the Oslo Opera House among other things, FYI...

Snøhetta (company) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
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...and of course Toronto Metropolitan University's Student Learning Centre

www.snohetta.com

Sheldon & Tracy Levy Student Learning Centre

Toronto Metropolitan University students are making good use of the newest building on campus: the Student Learning Centre (SLC), designed by Snøhetta and Zeidler Partnership Architects. Inspired by the historical gathering spaces of the Stoas and Agoras in ancient Greece where learning was inher...
www.snohetta.com www.snohetta.com

I hope the rumour is true. Their style would match Ontario Place while bringing their own modern twist.

The real tragedy is Therme's mistake by the lake and DoFo's parking garage are going to stain Eb Zeidler's masterpiece.
 
I despise Ford as much as anyone else and what he's doing with the Therme deal and shutting down the Science Centre with made up pretexts, all against the wishes of Toronto, is disgustingly corrupt but...

...I also think that Ontario Place is the perfect location for the Ontario Science Centre. It's the kind of venue that will properly activate the Cinesphere and the Pods and bring year round activity to the grounds that had lost their purpose in recent decades. If Therme miraculously doesn't get built, I'd be happy with the Science Centre as the lead anchor along with the Amphitheatre and a rebuilt park on the West Island.

The Cinesphere's IMAX screen was quite literally made for this. The pods provide space for exhibits and the grounds are great for class visits. It'll be downtown where the tourists are, guaranteeing it stable revenue, and I could see the Science Centre becoming an integral CNE pavilion in future years. And it's near the terminus station of a downtown subway within a 20 min walking distance to hundreds of thousands of homes.

Not to say that I agree that the Flemingdon Park building should've closed but that neighbourhood is expanding quickly and the Moriyama building would serve as a beautiful community centre.
 
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