City of Hamilton and New Horizon reached an deal

There will be revisions during the OLT process
Filings during the process leading up to the OLT settlement state the City and NHDG discussed a modified proposal that included adding commercial uses at the ground level, lowering the height of the 25-storey towers to 20-storeys, decreasing the number of units to 1,850 from 1,995, and moving the townhouse units closer to the property line on the north and west boundaries.

The final settlement will become public when filed to the OLT.

A date for the settlement hearing is still to be determined.

https://thepublicrecord.ca/2025/03/...s-reach-deal-for-499-mohawk-east-development/
 
This is great to hear. As Ive said before, I really love this for the Mountain. Step in the right direction. There are a few other under-utilized plazas/land at intersections of major streets similar to this one I can imagine could follow suit; Fennell and Upper Ottawa, Wellington and Stone Church, Westcliffe Mall.
 
I went to OPM Sales at an old Zellers/Walmart place, a few years ago same leaking issue and yesterday on Facebook they posted on the shocking of the state of the building.
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Shut the place down for good and demolish it down.
 
Branden Simon said:
I went to OPM Sales at an old Zellers/Walmart place, a few years ago same leaking issue and yesterday on Facebook they posted on the shocking of the state of the building.
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Shut the place down for good and demolish it down.
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This is always the issue with these big box stores. They're not designed to last more than a decade or two at most. The stores are mostly filled with crap, the building is cheap garbage, and they represent the minimum investment in a community for the maximum extraction of profit. It's why I continue to be a Walmart hater and general big box store disliker.

That being said, the city can't force closure and allow demolition unless there's actual safety concerns or structural issues. The owner can apply for demolition after a site plan application is submitted.
 
Chris R. said:
This is always the issue with these big box stores. They're not designed to last more than a decade or two at most. The stores are mostly filled with crap, the building is cheap garbage, and they represent the minimum investment in a community for the maximum extraction of profit. It's why I continue to be a Walmart hater and general big box store disliker.

That being said, the city can't force closure and allow demolition unless there's actual safety concerns or structural issues. The owner can apply for demolition after a site plan application is submitted.
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you realize that about 80% of big-box retailers in Ontario are now 20+ years old? The building OPM sales is in dates from the 1960's and is now around 60 years old.. not many buildings will last that long of any kind, especially without proper maintenance. The building has been without a major tenant now for 6+ years with the landowner intending to demolish.. you know they haven't been spending a dime on this place. Those ceiling tiles are probably original to the building. Most of that is water damage from a roof which hasn't been properly maintained.

The City does have basic property maintenance standards which should prevent this kind of occupancy condition, though, believe it or not. It just selectively enforces it, if at all.
 
innsertnamehere said:
you realize that about 80% of big-box retailers in Ontario are now 20+ years old? The building OPM sales is in dates from the 1960's and is now around 60 years old.. not many buildings will last that long of any kind, especially without proper maintenance. The building has been without a major tenant now for 6+ years with the landowner intending to demolish.. you know they haven't been spending a dime on this place. Those ceiling tiles are probably original to the building. Most of that is water damage from a roof which hasn't been properly maintained.

The City does have basic property maintenance standards which should prevent this kind of occupancy condition, though, believe it or not. It just selectively enforces it, if at all.
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I figured it was self explanatory that this was without maintenance. If you fix issues as they crop up the buildings will last indefinitely obviously. Most buildings don't have substantial failures as quickly as these basically warehouse style buildings, built as cheaply as possible.
 
Chris R. said:
I figured it was self explanatory that this was without maintenance. If you fix issues as they crop up the buildings will last indefinitely obviously. Most buildings don't have substantial failures as quickly as these basically warehouse style buildings, built as cheaply as possible.
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if you don't replace the roof on a house for 20-30 years you would have the same problems.

These buildings are basically giant warehouses but there isn't some inherent quality issue with them. If anything they are steel construction which makes them sturdier than a lot of other stuff like the older wood-construction walkup storefronts which have been collapsing around downtown..

They are still ugly and a terrible land use, I just don't think you can really critique them from a durability or longevity perspective.
 
Here is the same store featured in the crazy Black Friday stampede scene from Thanksgiving movie, saw some stained ceiling tiles lol **Warning language and gore** -
 
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