[BrenWilson]

It wouldn't be part of the City committee anyways, but I've no idea what's taking them so long on this. They supposedly had a preferred bidder, so does this mean the negotiations are going (or went) poorly? If the contractor can't start the design phase soon then I can't see any serious construction starting until 2028.

 

[BCTed]

It wouldn't be part of the City committee anyways, but I've no idea what's taking them so long on this. They supposedly had a preferred bidder, so does this mean the negotiations are going (or went) poorly? If the contractor can't start the design phase soon then I can't see any serious construction starting until 2028.

Year after year after year passes by

 

[Chris R.]

It wouldn't be part of the City committee anyways, but I've no idea what's taking them so long on this. They supposedly had a preferred bidder, so does this mean the negotiations are going (or went) poorly? If the contractor can't start the design phase soon then I can't see any serious construction starting until 2028.

I think I'd be expecting it to be discussed at committee as an update if the province was to announce it. I suspect that's why the meeting was pushed to the end of the month.

 

[thettctransitfanatic]

During a major announcement on funding housing and transit infrastructure across the Golden Horseshoe today, the PM and Premier were talking about transit funding. And the feds have now committed to signing an agreement to fund the Hamilton LRT.

Ontario Newsroom

news.ontario.ca

''Priority transit projects in the Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area (GTHA): execute federal contribution agreements on announced transit projects, including the Ontario Line, Eglinton Crosstown West Extension, Scarborough Subway Extension, Yonge North Subway Extension and Hamilton LRT''.

 

[Chris R.]

During a major announcement on funding housing and transit infrastructure across the Golden Horseshoe today, the PM and Premier were talking about transit funding. And the feds have now committed to signing an agreement to fund the Hamilton LRT.

Ontario Newsroom

news.ontario.ca

''Priority transit projects in the Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area (GTHA): execute federal contribution agreements on announced transit projects, including the Ontario Line, Eglinton Crosstown West Extension, Scarborough Subway Extension, Yonge North Subway Extension and Hamilton LRT''.

Is this not the same as the memorandum of under whicb is essentially a pinky promise to sign for funding?

Is there anything particularly notable about the memorandum of understanding and this further commitment to in the future sign an agreement?

 

[innsertnamehere]

Is this not the same as the memorandum of under whicb is essentially a pinky promise to sign for funding?

Is there anything particularly notable about the memorandum of understanding and this further commitment to in the future sign an agreement?

Basically up until now the Province has been planning to pay for all the lines themselves - my understanding is that this will reduce their capital obligations through federal funding.

 

[Chris R.]

Basically up until now the Province has been planning to pay for all the lines themselves - my understanding is that this will reduce their capital obligations through federal funding.

The Hamilton LRT since the memorandum of understanding was signed was intended to be half funded by the federal government and half by the provincial government.

It doesn't appear that this changes that agreement?

Hamilton City Council ratifies memorandum of understanding for the Hamilton Light Rail Transit (LRT) project | City of Hamilton

HAMILTON, ON - Today, Hamilton City Council ratified a memorandum of understanding with Metrolinx and the Ministry of Transportation (MTO) to move forward with the 14-kilometre Hamilton Light Rail Transit (LRT) project.

www.hamilton.ca

"In May 2021, a joint funding announcement was made by the provincial and federal governments committing $3.4B to the capital cost of the project, making the Hamilton LRT one of the largest infrastructure investments in the City’s history."

Edit: there is new info actually, just not in the above release:

"Canada and Ontario will work to conclude federal contribution agreements within 90 days on previously announced transit projects for the GTHA, including the Ontario Line, Eglinton Crosstown West Extension, Scarborough Subway Extension, Yonge North Subway Extension and the Hamilton LRT."

Ontario Newsroom

news.ontario.ca

 

[Chris R.]

Im making this a separate comment because it's essentially rumour creating, but Aecon has recently posted a ton of jobs in Hamilton for a large civil works infrastructure project requiring multiple GIS experts, Executive Assistant for the Utilities Division of the Urban Transportation Solutions sector, Risk Analyst, PLAA, Track Manager, and a Community Engagement.

Take of that what you will.

 

[BrenWilson]

Yeah looking over these postings I can't imagine any other project these would be for lol.

 

[Chris R.]

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[urbanclient]

Those corners could be a problem depending where the guideway is.

That statement is technically true, but misleading the way it's phrased. Having driven them extensively, those two intersections are tight. Even if a westbound tram has a right curb alignment at King and Dundurn, then switches to a left curb alignment at Dundurn and Main.

I expect very low speed limits.

 

[legoswmonkey]

We have reference design documentation if you want to estimate radius though its no guarantee the final contract goes with this exact alignment.

 

[Chris R.]

I think the bigger issue with our LRTs is the lack of speed on straightaways. LRT can operate at 60km/h - 80km/h, and yet our LRTs often travel at 30-40km/h for two large reasons:

1) LRT cannot have their own speed limit, so if automobiles have a 40 km/h speed limit this applied to the centre running, tracked LRT for whatever reason.

2) Risk avoidance, being scared of running them too quickly because of fear of issues. For whatever reason we are unable to build fast and safe transit. It has to be slow to be safe apparently.

KW ION shows this to a degree. While faster than Finch. Having been on the LRT in KW it crawls along certain stretches with no discernible reason.

Hamilton's LRT should be able to hit 60km/h along much of this route but will be limited by the automobile speed limit (which is 50km but should be 40) and will be run like a risky piece of infrastructure, accelerated like it's fill with people made of glass.

 

[BCTed]

I think the bigger issue with our LRTs is the lack of speed on straightaways. LRT can operate at 60km/h - 80km/h, and yet our LRTs often travel at 30-40km/h for two large reasons:

1) LRT cannot have their own speed limit, so if automobiles have a 40 km/h speed limit this applied to the centre running, tracked LRT for whatever reason.

2) Risk avoidance, being scared of running them too quickly because of fear of issues. For whatever reason we are unable to build fast and safe transit. It has to be slow to be safe apparently.

KW ION shows this to a degree. While faster than Finch. Having been on the LRT in KW it crawls along certain stretches with no discernible reason.

Hamilton's LRT should be able to hit 60km/h along much of this route but will be limited by the automobile speed limit (which is 50km but should be 40) and will be run like a risky piece of infrastructure, accelerated like it's fill with people made of glass.

It is tough to tell what the difference between the KW LRT and a streetcar is. A longer distance between stops and somewhat faster speed, I guess.

Also, why does KW have to be so much ahead of Hamilton?

 

[Northern Light]

During a major announcement on funding housing and transit infrastructure across the Golden Horseshoe today, the PM and Premier were talking about transit funding. And the feds have now committed to signing an agreement to fund the Hamilton LRT.

Ontario Newsroom

news.ontario.ca

''Priority transit projects in the Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area (GTHA): execute federal contribution agreements on announced transit projects, including the Ontario Line, Eglinton Crosstown West Extension, Scarborough Subway Extension, Yonge North Subway Extension and Hamilton LRT''.

Basically up until now the Province has been planning to pay for all the lines themselves - my understanding is that this will reduce their capital obligations through federal funding.

The feds announced 1.7B in support for the Hamilton LRT in 2021.

This is the press release from 2021:

Federal government and province commit to shovel ready Hamilton Light Rail Transit project from McMaster to Eastgate at Centennial Park - Canada.ca

Today the Honourable Catherine McKenna, federal Minister of Infrastructure and Communities, the Honourable Filomena Tassi, Minister of Labour and Member of Parliament for Hamilton West – Ancaster – Dundas, and Caroline Mulroney, Ontario Minister of Transportation announced that both governments...

www.canada.ca

Nothing new here, unless funding had had been formally clawed back at some point.