ProjectEnd said:
There is no new station coming. This is embarrassing and if costs are to blame, that's also fundamentally on Metrolinx. Project management 101: control your team, control your schedule, control your budget. Metrolinx does none of those things.
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Money has to come from somewhere, ie the Province, Metrolinx has to manage it yes. I suppose I will be the optimist and hope that development in the area will pay for a better station someday through DCs or other revenue tools.
 
The odd thing to me is that this has been cut to absolute bare bones while Exhibition plows ahead as the grandest transit station in the City.

Delivery costs on all of Metrolinx's projects have all become verifiably insane though, and I feel like you can see it in the construction processes they are using too.. not a dime to spare on anything. It's like they go through construction planning and design and pick the most expensive option every single time... except for architectural flourishes. Exhibition Station is like a giant display of the most expensive, custom construction equipment and methods possible right now.
 
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Isn't this one being paid for by the city as part of smarttrack, and that's the difference?

Still on Metrolinx as the project manager who can't control costs
 
ProjectEnd said:
There is no new station coming. This is embarrassing and if costs are to blame, that's also fundamentally on Metrolinx. Project management 101: control your team, control your schedule, control your budget. Metrolinx does none of those things.
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While I believe that thee later render is a slight improvement to the Walmart entrance point here. I think it's safe to say that the structural engineering business is fantastic, but the proposed user level business sucks donkey kongs, to which I blame on both Metrolinx and our sitting provincial government for that. Others may beg to differ though.
 
Bridge shots from today. The south side has all its arches in place.

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By building it they way they did some future government can spend a fortune on a dig down project and East Harbour can be the place Torontonians ask "will the construction ever be done".
 
ward10 said:
Isn't this one being paid for by the city as part of smarttrack, and that's the difference?

Still on Metrolinx as the project manager who can't control costs
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Yes, this is one of the SmartTrack stations under the City's budget. Bloor-Lansdowne and St Clair-Old Weston are the other two going ahead at the moment. Having a distinction between Province and City funded stations, when there will be no distinctions in the train operation afterwards, further highlights the ridiculous politics-driven transportation planning here. (Thank goodness the original SmartTrack plan failed, which would have run separate trains from the GO service, adding an unnecessary bureaucratic layer into your trip-planning.) When SmartTrack 1.0 failed though, the stations should have simply been folded into the GO Expansion plan... but then all of the GGH's transit expansion should be coming from a agency that is far less buffeted by political winds, and which has its project management in order. Mini-rant over, for now.

EDIT: The City is on the hook for $878M, or only 52% of East Harbour station's budget. The other two stations? Bloor-Lansdowne = 13.4%, St Clair-Old Weston = 34.6%. If East Harbour is considered the most important of these, why is the Province paying the smallest amount here? Or, better question, why are these numbers all over the place? Why isn't the percentage the same? What's the rationale behind these negotiated figures? Keep the lawyers busier than necessary?

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