Tim MacDonald
Senior Member
Part two - South of the QEW
Tim MacDonald
Senior Member
Since we are having so much fun, let's do a part three. Some Port Credit station shots:
drum118
Superstar
Thanks and shows a few things clearly than the ground level.
If one looks at Tim's photos, this is what I see.
Concrete base poured from Pinewood to Mineola waiting trackwork. Both sides of Mineola waiting trackwork now, Hard to say if more rebar in place for the station.
No change to the North Service Rd and the westbound QEW ramp and wonder what the mobile sign is saying now for no left turn other than April. that was showing in March.
Looks like more cinder blocks installed at the south end of the south entrance for PC station.
If you look at the 3rd last photo, it is saying the southbound lane will shift from right to left south of where it is currently is by the road curb and the missing concrete between it and the guideway base. It will be a single lane with traffic lanes becoming one lane before the shift.
Cannot think of a reason why concrete wasn't pour from where the right side base stop and to Englewood Dr, let along from Englewood to the station that been ready since mid 2025.
Otherwise, I see no other changes than what I noted and what I shot this year as well late last year.
JJTheJetPln
Active Member
If you had waited a day, you'd see that The Paisley / Hurontario inetersection will actually be closed tomorrow at 10PM to May 18th at 10PM for guideway / track work within the intersection.
Ray Lawson / Hurontario has some more storm drain work that needs to be completed before they can shift the remaining lanes over. It'll be happening from April 10th to April 20th and will occur in three phases to keep traffic moving.
Has anyone been around Bronte College / Hurontario to see the progress on the track installation there?
drum118
Superstar
Nothing for trackwork a week ago for Bronte being lay but tracks in place from the Queensway to Paisley with tracks pour up to the first haft of the fire station driveway. The remaining section on both side of Paisley will be done once Paisley intersection is done. Paisley was supposed to be done in 2025 before King St and close to a year late.
The same detour route for Paisley will happen when time to do Dundas intersection around June. I been waiting for Fairview to happen that will follow by John St and these 3 intersection will close the book for intersections down to the North Service Rd. Paisley intersection as well Fairview and expect to see John done the same will be one month while Dundas in two months in two phase.
Hard to tell from the map if Ray Lawson work will be done in phases for the storm drain work or full closure for northbound traffic. Wouldn't be surprise guideway work will start for that intersection once the storm drain work is done in two phases.
JJTheJetPln
Active Member
From the notice:
First phase: County Court Blvd will be closed at Hurontario St commencing Friday April 10th at 8pm
until 5am on Monday April 13th.
Second phase: on April 13th and April 14th, left turns will be prohibited from all directions at the
intersection of Hurontario Street and Ray Lawson Boulevard/County Court Boulevard Northbound and
southbound lanes on Hurontario St will be reduced to one in each direction for the duration of this
phase.
Third phase: Westbound closure of Ray Lawson Blvd and Hurontario St commencing Friday April 17th
at 8pm until 5am on Monday April 20th. Eastbound movements through the intersection will be
maintained. Left turns will be prohibited from Hurontario Street to Ray Lawson Boulevard,
crs1026
Superstar
One thing I learned from Line 5 and 6 construction is that at the point where the row seems to be coming together - which this line now is at, the "sea of mud" stage is mostly over - the observer begins to think " just a few more things to finish - why is it going so slow?". In fact, there is still a lot of work to complete. Patience is needed.
I would hope the builders have learned from those other lines, and commissioning ought to be much more organized and straightforward. So hopefully time gained on the back end. But still timewise it will be a while yet. But it's good to see lots getting done.
- Paul
I would hope the builders have learned from those other lines, and commissioning ought to be much more organized and straightforward. So hopefully time gained on the back end. But still timewise it will be a while yet. But it's good to see lots getting done.
- Paul
hw621
Senior Member
When will this thing open again? This thread is 20 years old.
Mercenary
Active Member
My Guess would be sometime in 2032 or 2033
hw621
Senior Member
The original planned opening was like what, 2022? This is worse than Eglinton.
JJTheJetPln
Active Member
It definitely goes without saying. I was patient when they finished the work over the 407, and I was patient when I started hearing about the guideway being built in Brampton. I remain hopeful that the project will be finished soon, but know that I can't be let down any further than I have already been by people speculating that this would have been done in October of 2024. We'll see what the future brings.
I said something similar and was told that these lines are the first of their kind (whatever that means) here, so whatever lessons they've learned will be carried forward on new projects, not the current projects they're working on. However, I'm so over LRT's at this point. I would much rather see a dedicated bus lane down a busy road during rush hour traffic instead of another who knows how many years of LRT construction.
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
It's a good thing that Metrolink has all of these Alstom trains, like the ones for line 6 in storage for this line
drum118
Superstar
That was when the line was proposed that was follow by a land use and an EA for the line. As far as I am concern based on my background and seeing the corridor first hand, The line will open by the end of 2028 or early n 2028 unless something happens over the next 12 months, Contract was awarded 2019 with construction starting 2020.
It was scheduled to open September 2024 in 2019 and was pushed back to December 2024 after the contact was awarded.
Cannot compared Line 5 and 6 to this lines as a lot of issues with the Hurontario never surface on those lines. Funding was a big issues that lead to the downgrading of credit rating as well been put on credit watch due to late payments and poor process. Then there was a takeover of one of the main partners due to a number of issues that prevented Mobilinx been removed from the project as the takeover partner was already working for Metrolinx. Quality of workmanship, lack of crews, upper management turn over along with lack of supervisors and inspectors play a large role for the project to fall behind.
Mobilinx started the big 2026 push in September of 2025 and has continue to ramp up more since February 2026 to see it today. All guideway construction will be done by September other than 14 interactions that needs the guideway across them that will take one to two months to them with 4 seeing one month and the rest in two months done in two phases, Trackwork could be done by year end. Overhead system is an unknown timeframe on my end. Pull tow testing could be June or the summer once all trackwork is pour in place a well fixing a few areas where the tracks have to be rebuilt. Pull testing will be from the OMSF to Kingsbridge with power testing to Eglinton using 3-4 LRV's at a time due to the location of the second crossover up at Waltline. Testing to Matheson was supposed to take place February 2024 that was moved to July 2025.
There were a few LRV's in the yard last year and was told the rest were inside but not sure how true if that was correct. February 2026 saw 4 LRV's way at the west end or was it 6 as it was very hard to count them. There are currently 16 LRV's in the yard based on a photo shot from a plan over the yard. How many maybe in the carhouse is unknown, but there are supposed 27 in total for Phase 1 and 44 once all extensions are built.
It was stated in 2019 and some years ago that all LRV's would arrive with all fixes that were done for Ottawa LRV's :LRV's that are the same car, but will all the on going issues currently Ottawa cars, will Hurontar ion and Line 5 see they see the same problems down the road.
drum118
Superstar
April 14
We visited some friends in Brampton today before they move out the city this weekend. It allow us a chance to have a look at the corridor to the point we did a walking tour from Topflight to Steeles since the weather was real nice.
The guideway north of Steeles is sadly a material storage area. All the guideway from Lancashire Ln, to Sir Loo stack to have the curb pour for it starting any day except where there is a left turn lane. All the guideways have rebar in place for the OS poles foundation.
Northbound lanes have been shifted back to their normal lanes at Ray Lawson with the centre section to see work starting Wednesday. The guideway south of Ray Lawson has centre curbs and ready for the base to be pour for it.
All 5 intersections and driveways will see two phase building of the guideway across them including the 407 ramps. The guideway on both sides of the 407 overpass missing one section of the bearer wall for some unknown reason.
Haft of the guideway from the 407 ramp to Topflight completely poured and the other haft should see the base pour by the end of the month.
All trackwork is done on Topflight with a few missing drains for the east end. That east end intersection will be the only section from Hurontario to the OMSF not to be fully rebuild. The first section north of the intersection is ready to be pour. Not sure if it was the owner or who, but giving the crew a earful parking their vehicles in the driveway and saying there is all kind of areas to park as they try to leave the property. Only haft of the driveway has steel places across the driveway at this time as the other haft is waiting for concrete to be pour. They may pour the full driveway and the last of the OMSF guideway on Saturday that will close the book on the OMSF guideway.
Saw nothing new for the overhead system for the whole area,
Some overhead work has taken place from Topflight to Bristol Rd with one pole with brackets in place across both track with a wire at the top attacked to it and tie to the poles on either side of, It a small number to what has to take place. A number of poles now have electrical cable role up on them as well a few brackets. A number of poles brackets have been tie together for some reasons considering some have been in place over a year.
No work has started on Britannia intersection nor from Topflight to the 403.
Sign still up for nightly closure for trucks north of Britannia and done see what is supposed to be taking place.
Base material has been place on the guideway base from the 403 ramp to Hurontario as well some curb paired in place for the guideway.
All trackwork poured from Burnhamorpe to a short distance north of Matthew Gates.
Concrete poured on both sides of the tracks from Fairview to the Emergency Turning pad,
New hydro poles installed south of the bridge to John St.
Trackwork poured in place from John St to Hillcrest. New crossover being installed on the southside of Hillcrest and answer where a third one was to go in.
A third of the trackwork is poured in place south of King St with the remainder to be done this week depending on the weather or next week.
We visited some friends in Brampton today before they move out the city this weekend. It allow us a chance to have a look at the corridor to the point we did a walking tour from Topflight to Steeles since the weather was real nice.
The guideway north of Steeles is sadly a material storage area. All the guideway from Lancashire Ln, to Sir Loo stack to have the curb pour for it starting any day except where there is a left turn lane. All the guideways have rebar in place for the OS poles foundation.
Northbound lanes have been shifted back to their normal lanes at Ray Lawson with the centre section to see work starting Wednesday. The guideway south of Ray Lawson has centre curbs and ready for the base to be pour for it.
All 5 intersections and driveways will see two phase building of the guideway across them including the 407 ramps. The guideway on both sides of the 407 overpass missing one section of the bearer wall for some unknown reason.
Haft of the guideway from the 407 ramp to Topflight completely poured and the other haft should see the base pour by the end of the month.
All trackwork is done on Topflight with a few missing drains for the east end. That east end intersection will be the only section from Hurontario to the OMSF not to be fully rebuild. The first section north of the intersection is ready to be pour. Not sure if it was the owner or who, but giving the crew a earful parking their vehicles in the driveway and saying there is all kind of areas to park as they try to leave the property. Only haft of the driveway has steel places across the driveway at this time as the other haft is waiting for concrete to be pour. They may pour the full driveway and the last of the OMSF guideway on Saturday that will close the book on the OMSF guideway.
Saw nothing new for the overhead system for the whole area,
Some overhead work has taken place from Topflight to Bristol Rd with one pole with brackets in place across both track with a wire at the top attacked to it and tie to the poles on either side of, It a small number to what has to take place. A number of poles now have electrical cable role up on them as well a few brackets. A number of poles brackets have been tie together for some reasons considering some have been in place over a year.
No work has started on Britannia intersection nor from Topflight to the 403.
Sign still up for nightly closure for trucks north of Britannia and done see what is supposed to be taking place.
Base material has been place on the guideway base from the 403 ramp to Hurontario as well some curb paired in place for the guideway.
All trackwork poured from Burnhamorpe to a short distance north of Matthew Gates.
Concrete poured on both sides of the tracks from Fairview to the Emergency Turning pad,
New hydro poles installed south of the bridge to John St.
Trackwork poured in place from John St to Hillcrest. New crossover being installed on the southside of Hillcrest and answer where a third one was to go in.
A third of the trackwork is poured in place south of King St with the remainder to be done this week depending on the weather or next week.
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drum118
Superstar
April 15
At council today it was stated that Metrolinx CEO will meet with council behind close doors on April 22nd. Some are saying they will be given a lipstick update with no meat on it and pussyfoot around some tough questions.
The loop is an unknown and hope it stay that way. The tough question to be ask, "who is to supply replacement buses south of Square One when time comes to rebuild the Burnhamthorpe intersection that will have to take place to put in the wye for six months unless done 7/24 that could be 4 months"?. Since the city doesn't have enough buses to supply replacement buses, it can only remove buses off existing routes causing longer headways as well more travelling time for existing riders that will tick off riders.
There is no time line as to when the new Transit Hub will be built with a 2027 timeframe for 100% design work.
The two BRT lines question "why it was going to take 5 years to build the Dundas one and 3 years of the 2km Lakeshore East one"?. I find the timeline too long based on a number of system built in the US considering all utilities will be done before work starts. Dundas is to start in 2027 and completed by 2032. Looks like the Lakeshore is to start in 2027 as well with no clear completion date. Dundas only needs the road dug up to pour a concrete base and asphalt it with stations needing more time than the road
Nothing was stated about the Derry Rd BRT and not enough ridership to be in the picture at this time.
Even though there was no report on the Milton Line, council asked various questions about it that can only be answer by Metrolinx. There were questions about grade separations for the line with the response that Metrolinx will cover most of the cost for them. There are six to be done in Mississauga costing $30-$50 million with Mississauga Rd costing at Least $100 million is not more from my point of view.
Note:
I fail to note for yesterday posting that rail splicing was taking place with a Mobil truck doing the spline which takes a minute or two like TTC does with crew cleaning the welds up that is normal done after any splicing.
I have to check the rails at Fairview area as I did not see the rails that were spread out in the guideway like I saw them last week and may have miss them. in the dark.
Topcoat poured for the Fairview Station.
Did noticed rails encase in the guideway at World Dr and that means there will be a station bult in the future for that interaction,
Noticed new bundles of platform edges for the Derry Station with edges partly installed for the northbound track and nothing for the southbound with material spread out for it but not installed. Been close to nine months when they first started the edge work and does the new bundles of edges mean the original ones will have to be replace or the new bundles are for another station?
That was Ray Lawson in Place of Steeles for base to be pour
At council today it was stated that Metrolinx CEO will meet with council behind close doors on April 22nd. Some are saying they will be given a lipstick update with no meat on it and pussyfoot around some tough questions.
The loop is an unknown and hope it stay that way. The tough question to be ask, "who is to supply replacement buses south of Square One when time comes to rebuild the Burnhamthorpe intersection that will have to take place to put in the wye for six months unless done 7/24 that could be 4 months"?. Since the city doesn't have enough buses to supply replacement buses, it can only remove buses off existing routes causing longer headways as well more travelling time for existing riders that will tick off riders.
There is no time line as to when the new Transit Hub will be built with a 2027 timeframe for 100% design work.
The two BRT lines question "why it was going to take 5 years to build the Dundas one and 3 years of the 2km Lakeshore East one"?. I find the timeline too long based on a number of system built in the US considering all utilities will be done before work starts. Dundas is to start in 2027 and completed by 2032. Looks like the Lakeshore is to start in 2027 as well with no clear completion date. Dundas only needs the road dug up to pour a concrete base and asphalt it with stations needing more time than the road
Nothing was stated about the Derry Rd BRT and not enough ridership to be in the picture at this time.
Even though there was no report on the Milton Line, council asked various questions about it that can only be answer by Metrolinx. There were questions about grade separations for the line with the response that Metrolinx will cover most of the cost for them. There are six to be done in Mississauga costing $30-$50 million with Mississauga Rd costing at Least $100 million is not more from my point of view.
Note:
I fail to note for yesterday posting that rail splicing was taking place with a Mobil truck doing the spline which takes a minute or two like TTC does with crew cleaning the welds up that is normal done after any splicing.
I have to check the rails at Fairview area as I did not see the rails that were spread out in the guideway like I saw them last week and may have miss them. in the dark.
Topcoat poured for the Fairview Station.
Did noticed rails encase in the guideway at World Dr and that means there will be a station bult in the future for that interaction,
Noticed new bundles of platform edges for the Derry Station with edges partly installed for the northbound track and nothing for the southbound with material spread out for it but not installed. Been close to nine months when they first started the edge work and does the new bundles of edges mean the original ones will have to be replace or the new bundles are for another station?
That was Ray Lawson in Place of Steeles for base to be pour
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