Groovy has been around Queen Street for a long time, a little surprising they've opened another location, though.

There has been a constant disagreement on this site as to what the site's main purpose is. A lot of people visit, apparently, just to get news, and get annoyed when they see a thread is bumped but gives no news. But I don't know what more there is to say about The One, and with all due respect...

I remember reading somewhere that a lot of these stores rely on a small handful of loyal customers who can afford to shop there, and will buy a bunch of expensive items at the one time. Looking at Hermes's website, I see they have shirts that cost over two thousand dollars. These are not stores...

I have to shake my head at the people who think this wasn't much of a change. Like, this is a major renovation.

Parkdalian had a bad experience at the Prada store.

Partly why I wish the rail deck park could have been built.

Okay, but what exactly is the difference? Do these companies have stores? What is going to draw people to this specific location. What does the ground floor look like? Is it a few cars, and a mostly empty show room? Say what you will about Apple, but their stores actually draw people.

Not only that, it turns out the design was drastically changed. 😳

This is just the Tesla idea all over again.

People here talk about how the original proposal was never going to be built, meanwhile, 45 Broad Street in New York is similar, but being built What was it about the earlier design that made it unlikely to be built?

Eh...sure, but the retail section is still important, especially given how large this building is. When you're walking past it the first thing you'll notice is those large glass windows and whatever is behind them. Its ground presence would literally be enormous.

It's just kind of annoying that Apple would pull out of this space after it was specifically designed for them.

Tesla would be a terrible tenant, IMO. The appeal of Apple was that it would have been a big, lively, store, one that might have actually lived up to Mizrahi's dreams of this being an iconic location. A Tesla showroom would cater to such a smaller crowd, and the intersection is dead as it is...

As opposed to....?

I wonder what they're doing here? Anyone have any ideas?

Maybe? I don't really know much about it, to be honest. Here's another manip I did, this time creating another window (or the illusion of one...) in the side of the roof Of course, this doesn't take into account shadows, particularly of the Oxford towers. Still, if the dome sticks around, I...

So....with Apple reporting pulling out of the One, are they going to try to build somewhere else, or just stick with their current stores for the time being?

Not at all, I appreciate the effort! If you're curious, here's the original light study that was done that I used for my photoshop: https://dailyhive.com/toronto/blue-jays-renovations-rogers-centre-roof There have also been concerns over ice falling off of the CN Tower hitting the roof, and...

I would have, but I didn't really have a photo to work with from the right angle, and size.

I think it all comes down to how much of the roof is made to be transparent. One concern brought up in this thread is that fielders might have trouble spotting fly balls. But if the glass didn't go past the outfield, this shouldn't be an issue. In a perfect world, the hotel wouldn't be there...