And handjobs. Don't forget handjobs.

You're like the Dad everyone moves to the city to get away from.

Some people actually think it's very important that the very real damage this man did isn't buried under all the "He really cared about taxpayers" homilies. I'd argue it's more important to remember the truth than to bury it with the dead.

Did you just come back here to get upset? You must remember from prior experience that this isn't a Ford-friendly zone, and that your opinions aren't exactly warmly received.

Those kids are going to be reading a lot about their Dad as they get older. That condolence book is probably going to be one of the least upsetting things.

This thread is obviously causing you stress. Maybe stop looking at it?

I imagine she'll be bowled over by it.

"So we're going to move Rob to palliative care." "Great! So when do you think he'll be back on his feet?" "Uhhhhh.......I'm going to leave that one for the nurse."

That's true. The main thrust in most of the international news stories I recall seeing was "How did this city we all thought was sane and forward-thinking elect someone like this? And could it happen here?"

Even when he was at his worst, I don't recall many people here outright wishing for his death. Most of us would have been perfectly happy just seeing him get arrested.

Yeah, because Kathleen Wynne is also a violent criminal.

Nevertheless The supporters of both share a hatred for government in general, and just want to see the world burn so they can re-build it in their image once all the people they hate are gone. If I were to call them dumb I'd be giving them the extreme benefit of the doubt.

No family gathers at the bedside of anyone that's got more than a day or two. There are only so many games of gin rummy you can play.

I bet they're doing everything possible to make sure he doesn't die on St. Patrick's Day.

Saying he was "Known for always displaying extreme professionalism and courtesy" when he was known for the opposite, seems like an odd thing to add. And that "Knowing him meant you were always keenly aware of what team he supported in any arena" definitely seems to be trying to find a semi-nice...

Is it just me, or do parts of that obituary seem kind of sarcastic and back-handed?

I have the feeling the next time we see Rob it's going to be on the front page in an archival photo, if you know what I mean. With that and all the Graeme stuff, this is all starting to feel like the epilogue to a Scorsese gangster movie.

It does sort of give the impression of "Look how great we are for mourning someone we didn't like. Hopefully we can be a shining example for those of you tempted to take the low road".

I guess a long jail stretch would have done the trick, but I suppose that ship sailed long ago.

I wish there was a third category where he could get better, but be prevented from doing any more damage to his family, friends, or the city.