kEiThZ
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With mobilization he can get #1 and #3 combined. Take a few hundred thousand civilians. Draft them. Give them guns and nothing else. Tell them they are going to a war with high casualty rate. Watch what happens.
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With mobilization he can get #1 and #3 combined. Take a few hundred thousand civilians. Draft them. Give them guns and nothing else. Tell them they are going to a war with high casualty rate. Watch what happens.
Admiral Beez
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True. And it's going to be hard for Russia to have a successful VE Day parade on May 9th when pics of its latest warship on fire hit the airwaves.
Apparently on May 9th the Ukrainians are planning to march a fleet of destroyed Russian tanks and vehicles down the main road in Kyiv.
Admiral Beez
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Northern Light
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On the subject above:
www.independent.co.uk
That's one of their relatively new frigates too. (commissioned 2017)
Russian frigate Admiral Makarov ‘on fire after being hit by Ukrainian missile’
Ship was sailing near Snake Island when hit, say reports
www.independent.co.uk
That's one of their relatively new frigates too. (commissioned 2017)
Bjays92
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Let's be clear, a military coup does not necessarily mean anything would be better than it is now. I've seen quite a few articles about how top Russian generals feel Putin isn't doing enough to support their war effort.
Even if Putin loses power, there is no appetite in Russia to end this war. 3.8 million people left Russia in the first quarter of this year, those are your pro western Russians who actually disagree with Putin and Russia's actions. Changing Russia's course of action would appear to be a lost cause.
kEiThZ
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A military coup led by conscripts is most definitely not going to a pro-war movement.
I do agree that most Russians are pro-war. But a lot of that is in the same way that most Americans were pro-war in 2003. It's easy to support something where you don't have much skin in the game, and it's mostly poor rural minorities going and dying in Ukraine. A draft changes that calculus. What do you think support for invading Iraq would have been in the US, if it came with a general draft?
DirectionNorth
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Richard White
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Like lambs to the slaughter.
There are lots of questions about that image.
kEiThZ
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It's unconfirmed right now. And there's disputes whether it's conscription or mobilization. But we're going to know more in 5-6 hrs.
And if they do mobilize, it's going to get really interesting given that they can't sustain the force they have, and they have lost a lot of the professional soldiers who would normally train the conscripts and the officers who would lead them.
And if they do mobilize, it's going to get really interesting given that they can't sustain the force they have, and they have lost a lot of the professional soldiers who would normally train the conscripts and the officers who would lead them.
kEiThZ
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kEiThZ
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AlvinofDiaspar
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From Yahoo News:
ca.news.yahoo.com
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Ukraine destroys Vladimir Putin’s ‘parade boat’, armed forces claim
Ukraine’s armed forces claim they have destroyed Vladimir Putin’s special “parade boat”, which he uses to inspect his naval fleets. A Raptor-class patrol vessel was reportedly obliterated by a laser-guided bomb during a drone near Snake Island in the Black Sea. “We received information that...
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kEiThZ
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Ukrainians are now striking 100 km deep in to Russian held territory. This is looking like Afghanistan/Iraq on steroids if the Russians stay.
Towered
Senior Member
Amazing, and very ominous for Russia. This is why their complacency is hilariously delusional with regard to today's announcement that Kherson region will soon request to be formally incorporated into Russia. They seemingly have no idea of the shitstorm that's coming. Ukraine have openly mentioned that they are planning a major counter-offensive after late June when they'll have many more heavy weapons in place. I think by the end of summer, Kherson will be back under Ukrainian control.
Hell, if it goes even better than expected, they should push right on into Crimea. Make the ******* pay for what they've done, big time.