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Here are the airports July numbers. August number should be out not too long from now.
The trend continues with slower, traffic for domestic and higher for transborder and international.
Would be interesting to see if the domestic numbers recover in the next few months that some of the major disruptions are behind us.

Mechanics strike and hail storm took out some capacity that should return, Lynx going bankrupt but WJ leased all of the ex-Lynx fleet that should come in over the next few months, Air Canada strike likely avoided.
 
Sounds about right. Am I the only one finding Westjet's level of service and general value is not what it used to be? I'm not even sure if they are any better than Air Canada anymore.
In cabin service seems the same to me, but Westjet has slid service-wise when trying to contact them, like really sucks.
Once upon a time you could call them and get a hold of a live person with reasonable ease but now it’s almost impossible.
 
Any thoughts on why domestic is down, but international and US are up?
I think...
Cost; why fly domestic for more than international/US?
Post-Covid travel habits; now that you can go international/US why travel domestically?
Business travel changes; WFH changed the workweek and why travel when you can meet on a call?
 
Any thoughts on why domestic is down, but international and US are up?
These only my own observations, but almost everyone I know is flying overseas and stateside these days, and many say it's because the price isn't much higher than domestic in a lot of cases. The other thing that I've noticed in the work world is people are doing much less air travel for work, and a lot of that was domestic. After Covid there was a brief spike in travel, people often meeting new hires for the first time etc.. I saw it at my place of work and My wife saw it at hers but in both our workplaces it's dropped off a lot.

I should also mention that all major airports in Canada are seeing a drop in domestic travel this year, so it's not just a Calgary thing.
 
As an aside, every time I see those tables I cringe at the formula and formatting errors in the international table. That's sloppy work and I have no time for that.
 

Calgary to Delhi via Heathrow. And it is Air Canada not West Jet. Good to see Air Canada not completely leaving YYC to West Jet.
 
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Quick question on these stats, they include connecting passengers and counts them twice? Once for deplane and once for enplane? Curious how many are arriving in Calgary, since that's really the group that is generating tourism revenue beyond the airport/airline.
They are only counted once. Most don't leave the airport, and aren't directly involved in generating tourism, but in some ways they are indirectly involved in generating tourism, as they are a big part of the reason for all the direct US/Overseas flights. Those direct flights probably have some affect on tourism to Calgary, mostly Banff, how much I don't know, it's probably not huge numbers, but it helps.
 
They are only counted once. Most don't leave the airport, and aren't directly involved in generating tourism, but in some ways they are indirectly involved in generating tourism, as they are a big part of the reason for all the direct US/Overseas flights. Those direct flights probably have some affect on tourism to Calgary, mostly Banff, how much I don't know, it's probably not huge numbers, but it helps.
Not true; the first table even says explicitly that these are enplaned and deplaned passenger statistics.

This means that a passenger is counted if they get on a plane or if they get off a plane. So a visitor from Portland is counted once the day they arrive as a deplaned passenger and once the day they leave as an enplaned passenger. Even worse, a connecting passenger (assuming a symmetrical booking) is counted four times; if the Portlandian was actually a connecting passenger heading to Edmonton, they'd be counted the day they left home as a deplaned passenger PDX->YYC and as an enplaned passenger YYC-> YEG, and then the day they returned home as a deplaned passenger YEG->YYC and as an enplaned passenger YYC->PDX. Four counts on the table, and they never leave the airport.

(I should note that this is the standard for the airline industry, not something shady being done by YYC -- yes, it inflates the count of passengers relative to naive expectations, but everybody does it and nobody wants to be the one to cut their volumes in half or more.)

The financial reports and quarterly management statements here (select by year) have the actual detail. From the 2023 annual report:
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Look at the top two rows, and the second bolded column (2023 year total). 18.5 million E&D passengers is actually 6 million enplaned passengers from Calgary, another ~3.2 million connecting passengers enplaning (making 9.2 million total enplaning, 34.6% of which are connecting) and presumably very close to the same in reverse for deplaning passengers. For each headline E&D passenger in the 18.5 million, there's about 0.325 true local enplaning passenger.

(I'll note that if there's 18.5 million total pax and 9.2 million enplaning that means 9.3 million deplaning; while enplaning and deplaning is mostly symmetrical it doesn't have to be perfectly. Someone moving here and flying will deplane once, and then we would expect their next trip (e.g. to visit their former home) to have both an enplane and a deplane. Calgary CMA gained about 0.1 million people in 2023.)

This ratio is reasonably consistent over time; it was 0.315 in 2022 (4548.5/14452.1). Here's the ratio over time:
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The operating detail is not reported prior to the 2021 financial report (which includes both 2020 and 2019 operating information), however in the previous financial reports, the airport improvement fee revenue is reported; it's a fixed amount ($30 at the time) per passenger and applied to all originating passengers (i.e. at initial enplaning), so a very good estimate of local enplanements can be made. While the chart looks like a lot of change, note the axis; the total range is 6 percentage points, but excluding 2020, the range is about 0.02. The higher the ratio, the fewer connecting passengers there are.
 

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Oh okay, thanks for that clarification. I knew people originating or destinated for Calgary were counted each time, but thought connecting passengers were only counted once.
 
Interesting I didn't know when when I connect in an airport I pay the fee once, even if it is a long connection and I leave the airport.

The airport should want to count how many people are paying fees, wouldn't they be interested in predicting how much money they bring in based on these numbers?

Do you see what I'm saying?
 
Interesting I didn't know when when I connect in an airport I pay the fee once, even if it is a long connection and I leave the airport.

The airport should want to count how many people are paying fees, wouldn't they be interested in predicting how much money they bring in based on these numbers?

Do you see what I'm saying?
You're counted when you connect in an airport (and double-counted because both getting on and getting off planes are counted), but the airport improvement fee is only paid by the people who start a trip at the airport, not connecting passengers. They keep track of this for revenue purposes, but the reporting standard is how many people enter/exit an airplane including connections (because it adds to everyone's total).

Unless the connection is actually a second booking, which you'd typically do manually (or via a travel agent) -- one time Aeromexico had amazing flight deals, so I booked a trip to Argentina from LAX on Areomexico, but then had to use Air Canada to get myself to LAX (which was more expensive than the flight to Buenos Aires - that's how great the deal was). So in that case, I'd pay an airport fee in LAX since as far as Aeromexico knew, that's where my trip began. But if you book through one carrier, you'll only pay the fee at the airport where your trip starts in each direction. Fun fact from the fine print, the airport pays like 4% or so to the airlines so they collect the fees on their behalf. So in 2019, they got $163.3M in airport improvement fees, but paid $6.4M to the airlines to collect them.
 

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