[drum118]

Nov 10
Used the Dundas and Hurontario intersection at 9:30 today while returning the rental car and both westbound lanes were backup over a block with no construction taking place. There were cars in the turning lanes as well. If this was a single lane as plan, traffic would be backup the the traffic light to the east. Would say off hand that peak traffic would be backup to CP overpass and about 20 minute travel time.

 

[sixrings]

Nov 10
Used the Dundas and Hurontario intersection at 9:30 today while returning the rental car and both westbound lanes were backup over a block with no construction taking place. There were cars in the turning lanes as well. If this was a single lane as plan, traffic would be backup the the traffic light to the east. Would say off hand that peak traffic would be backup to CP overpass and about 20 minute travel time.

I’ve been backed up to that dominoes pizza plaza or after the kfc plaza multiple times. I prefer never to go through that intersection as it currently is. This will not make any friends between the car drivers and the transit users. It’s crazy.

 

[Wm Perkins Bull]

If they can rezone surplus and sell at a profit then there is a strong argument the original owner was not made whole for the value of their land during the expropriation process.

I'm not aware of a lawsuit after the fact as expropriated land is typically minimized, but there are certainly some pre-expropriation rezoning applications to ensure maximum value is considered (see Toronto's railway park).

Anyway, at most you can do this once. Every aggressive expropriation proposal after that a lawyer will draft a collective land-assembly agreement and toss in a basic rezoning application for every single expropriation in exchange for a %age of the increased value.

Incorrect, the reason this is a viable for the City to do is that the rezoned use is only possible as a result of having acquired the land. The landowner is compensated for the highest and best use at the time, which does not currently include high density housing, due to deficient transportation. After the City expropriates it, there is now sufficient transportation capacity to support high density housing, and as such, the City can rezone it, and sell it for more than they bought it for. The City by expropriating and using a portion of the land has created value that was only achievable through the acquisition of the land.

Imagine a house that sits right against a two lane rural road without municipal water or sewer. The City wants to widen the road to 6 lanes, and add municipal water and sewer, to do this, they must expropriate the house in the right of way. After they have finished widening the road, they rezone the remnant of the parcel the house used to sit on for 12 storey housing. Should the City have had to pay the owner of the rural lot, without water and sewer, for the value of land for a 12 storey apartment building?

 

[sixrings]

Incorrect, the reason this is a viable for the City to do is that the rezoned use is only possible as a result of having acquired the land. The landowner is compensated for the highest and best use at the time, which does not currently include high density housing, due to deficient transportation. After the City expropriates it, there is now sufficient transportation capacity to support high density housing, and as such, the City can rezone it, and sell it for more than they bought it for. The City by expropriating and using a portion of the land has created value that was only achievable through the acquisition of the land.

Imagine a house that sits right against a two lane rural road without municipal water or sewer. The City wants to widen the road to 6 lanes, and add municipal water and sewer, to do this, they must expropriate the house in the right of way. After they have finished widening the road, they rezone the remnant of the parcel the house used to sit on for 12 storey housing. Should the City have had to pay the owner of the rural lot, without water and sewer, for the value of land for a 12 storey apartment building?

Yes they should because that was the more intention all along. They had knowledge and the power to make the land more valuable immediately after acquiring it.

 

[jys]

Is there a real need for 4 GP lanes through this area? Turning traffic will go around it, and Queensway would be the fastest route for thru-traffic in any case (2 lanes or 4).

 

[sixrings]

Is there a real need for 4 GP lanes through this area? Turning traffic will go around it, and Queensway would be the fastest route for thru-traffic in any case (2 lanes or 4).

Let’s pretend you are travelling from mavis and dundas to dixie and dundas. You are not going to go up to burnamthorpe or south to queensway so that you can have faster thru-traffic because of one intersection.

On Saturday afternoon I was backed upped going west bound at the new condo development past the bridge.

The real question is if they continue with this poor decision will there be anyway to correct it once it’s done. Or is it now or never to build correct.

 

[drum118]

The city is proposing a ring road around the intersection that will force unwell traffic onto local streets and plain stupid.

• A note to file to the TPAP is required in order for the proposed work to proceed.
• Staff are seeking endorsement of the interim design and the authority to file a TPAP note to file. The TPAP note to file memo will enable the interim design to be implemented as part ofthe Dundas BRT Mississauga East Project.
• After the TPAP note to file process is completed, staff and the technical advisor will work together to finalize the Reference Concept Design (RCD) and Project Specific Output Specification (PSOS).
• The RCD and PSOS will be incorporated into the RFP package of the Dundas BRT. Mississauga East Project, which is anticipated to be issued in Q1 2024.