[afransen]

There are also so many better, not necessarily significantly more costly, ways to greatly improve the Downtown / Subway / MCC connection, starting with a 427 transitway extension and going all the up to Transitway rail conversions and 403/401 corridors that don't shut the transitway down.

Really I am probably most fond of committing to the OL extension closing the gap in the loop concept and running to Renforth ASAP; seems like Sheppard + OL to Renforth and Unionville + Cambridge LRT + Milton 2WAD would be a pretty compelling election goody package.

Sounds like $40B in transit spending. Governments can buy a lot of votes with that kind of commitment in other areas.

 

[allengeorge]

The BRT cannot be upgraded to an LRT as the relocation of utilizes was left out to save $7 million to get the BRT built. Another example of narrow vision when it comes to transit in the city/

I’m truly surprised at this level of cost-cutting. Prevent future upgrades because of $7M? It’s understand if this were mid-to-high double digit millions, but this seems like a case of penny-wise, pound-foolish.

The mayor also stated Ford will not be funding any large transit projects in Mississauga for the next 10 year outside of the Milton expansion.

Very interesting. I guess that makes sense? Outside of an LRT, BRT, and potential Milton line upgrades, is Mississauga in desperate need of capital improvements? It’s really down to service increases, right,

 

[drum118]

There are also so many better, not necessarily significantly more costly, ways to greatly improve the Downtown / Subway / MCC connection, starting with a 427 transitway extension and going all the up to Transitway rail conversions and 403/401 corridors that don't shut the transitway down.

Really I am probably most fond of committing to the OL extension closing the gap in the loop concept and running to Renforth ASAP; seems like Sheppard + OL to Renforth and Unionville + Cambridge LRT + Milton 2WAD would be a pretty compelling election goody package.

MTO has stated that no transitway will be built on the 427 unless there is a buses every 3 seconds using it. The land is more value to traffic than transit

You need to build the missing section starting east of Hurontario to Erin Mills with the eastern section underground to get to the north side of the 403 as well servicing a new transit terminal.

Why stop the OL at Renforth went it should go to the airport?

 

[afransen]

MTO has stated that no transitway will be built on the 427 unless there is a buses every 3 seconds using it. The land is more value to traffic than transit

You need to build the missing section starting east of Hurontario to Erin Mills with the eastern section underground to get to the north side of the 403 as well servicing a new transit terminal.

Why stop the OL at Renforth went it should go to the airport?

A bus every 3 seconds is a bit nonsensical. A bus every 60 seconds would have higher throughput than a general purpose lane.

MTO isn't a fiefdom, they answer to politicians.

 

[drum118]

A bus every 3 seconds is a bit nonsensical. A bus every 60 seconds would have higher throughput than a general purpose lane.

MTO isn't a fiefdom, they answer to politicians.

With Ford in office, good luck getting a transitway on a highway, especially 427. Land is set a side for the 407 BRT and nothing built today for it after how many decades??

Regardless who is in power, MTO calls the shots for highways. They have from time to time change construction timeline and layout to meet politicians requests, but not to meet transit needs.

MTO has set a standard for lanes and like it or not, the 3 second rule is the standard as well no transit lanes only. Having a transit bus every 60 seconds cannot be met and it it does, it is a rare time for the day. The best you may see is every 5-10 minutes with TTC at every 10 minutes, miWay every 15-25 minutes for 4 routes that will be less at times and GO every 15 minutes.

 

[Bureaucromancer]

As far as Renforth vs Pearson for the OL, my thinking is that Pearson is better served by the 407 corridor given that this isn’t meant to be a primary downtown / airport connector.

 

[nfitz]

As far as Renforth vs Pearson for the OL, my thinking is that Pearson is better served by the 407 corridor given that this isn’t meant to be a primary downtown / airport connector.

Off-topic here - but I'd think the alignment for the Ontario Line would best be Person -> Renforth -> Kipling. Line 5 is great, but need to get to Kipling from Pearson.

And then it can intercept the Dundas B/L RT somewhere west of Kipling as well.

Now that would be a useful corridor! Alternatively routing it through Square One maybe.