Gronk!
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View from the river valley. All I'll say is that I hope this spurs some high-rise TOD development in the Holyrood/Bonnie Doon area.
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dunno
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Yeah, to cover it up
Probably will be more bad before good. Second 12 floor tower has been sitting at grade for almost a year ready to go. I imagine they will mobilize on it once the big tower leases up more.
EtoV
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They'd probably have an easier time leasing it out if it actually looked like a place anyone would want to live... Sometimes it feels like some developers don't realize that whether it's conscious or unconscious, most people do consider the exterior of the building in some way when renting or buying. Even if most people mostly care about interiors, the exterior creates a first impression that sticks with them.
_urbanite
Senior Member
I think this will unfortunately lease up. As FUGLY as it is, it's the only new rental product of it's kind in this area, which will appeal to some who want/need to be more centrally located without being Downtown or on/near Whyte Ave, but still close enough to both.
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EtoV
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Oh yeah I agree that it will lease up. I just think that the business decision to cheap out on materials/design probably doesn't add up in the long run. The additional rent and faster lease up of a nicer looking building probably makes a nicer design worth it. I think The Hat developers have perfected this. They aren't going to win any architectural awards, but they've put just enough money/effort into materials to allow them to demand higher rents that they likely wouldn't be able to get with a grey stucco box.
Clearshades
Senior Member
The material and design are not the issue, but the execution is very poorly done. This is more of the architect designer who failed their job. They don't seem to learn from their previous experiences. For me, since the Icon towers, I've come to the conclusion that stucco material or the new panels (stucco as well) don't do well with solid dark colors and need to be light or opaque as much as possible, for they don't have the sheen and shine effects like spandrels or glazings; widows on towers require even symmetry, multiple colors into one scheme is atrocious, and so forth. Everything shouldn't cost more, as all they have to do is sit back and look at what they have done and seek a different approach. With the new stucco panels and starter/finishing trim used now, they can do so much with it. The problem is, we have amateurs that wants to built, and, in doing so, they're attributing to fuggliness...
Canadian 001
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Major Development Permit
They reduced the 2nd tower to a midrise to avoid paying for a crane
| Permit Class | Not Available |
| Permit Date | (No value) |
| Status | In Progress |
| Description of Development | To revise the Height and number of Dwellings to a Multi-unit Housing building (building 2: height reduced from 12 Storeys down to 6, and the number of Dwellings to be reduced from 143 to 83). |
| Address | 9109 - 85 STREET NW |
They reduced the 2nd tower to a midrise to avoid paying for a crane
archited
Senior Member
Better to have a "pimple" than a "wart".
Clearshades
Senior Member
Some don't know how to properly treat pimples or warts, so scaring is inevitable...
This one left a considerable scaring unfortunately.
This one left a considerable scaring unfortunately.
MacLac
Senior Member
Leases not as expected?
MCXavierL
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Exterior doesn’t look as bad from here
archited
Senior Member
And it looks even better from here... Mojave, California.
IanO
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Vacs
Active Member
My guess is change in structure