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I'm not sure that whatever you might get in trade from a single team in the middle of the season would come close to what you might be able to sign with the additional salary cap room gained if he were to leave, not to mention the mid-season disruption and adjustments that would come with a trade.

I hope he doesn't leave - without question he is both a special player and one who has given more than 100% since the day he signed here when you think about his living here year round and his support for his team-mates on and off-ice. But if he does, I wish him all the best wherever he ends up and there's no way I would deprive him of that potentially last opportunity to win a Stanley Cup wearing an Oilers jersey by trading him prematurely. If that means we get "nothing in return" but that potential opportunity to win a cup this year, I'm okay with that. He's more than earned whatever he decides to take and wherever he decides to take it from.
 
Howard with a nice goal from Nuge.

Philp with 2pts last night.

I like what I am seeing thus far from some of the guys who they expect to step in and contribute this year.
 
Oilers looked like puck moving kings at times tonight.

Savoie looks AHL and back 2 back penalties did not help.

Philp reminds me so much of 93 and expect him to make the team.

Samanski was all over the place in a good way.

Tomacek can't seem to find the timing, but was buzzing.

Mangy is hungry, had a bunch of nice moves/chances and will get 20+.

Dineen looks awful.

Kapanen is my favourite Oiler. Fights, hits, goals, hits, messing with people.

Nurse looked quite good out there I must say.

Overall our regular D were all on tonight.

Picks looked ok, had some luck, but it was the D that earned that SO.
 
Happen to be 1/50 first in to Oktoberfest last night and received a collectable stein and fill for free (used both chips). Love this use of the tent and I am sure that it got busier during/post game, but it was odd to open at 6pm for a 7pm game as we had to rush, but happy to see more options and more things here.

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Not a great look on the EOCF:
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Oilers 50/50 raffle has paid $81M to company owned by hockey group over 4 years, documents reveal​

Financial statements show percentage of ticket sales available for charity has declined since raffle moved online

A significant portion of ticket proceeds from the Edmonton Oilers' 50/50 charity raffle goes to a private company owned by the Oilers Entertainment Group (OEG), according to audited financial statements obtained by the Investigative Journalism Foundation.

“Net funds from the 50/50 program are split between the winner and the Edmonton Oilers Community Foundation,” according to a frequently asked questions document from 2024 on the Oilers’ NHL page. Before the foundation disburses money to charities, expenses are deducted from the pot.

Between 2021 and 2024, the Edmonton Oilers Community Foundation (EOCF), the charity that runs the 50/50 raffles, paid more than $81 million in what it calls “licence and rights fees” to OEG’s subsidiary Win50, millions of dollars more than the amount available for charitable activities over those four years, according to the foundation’s audited financial statements.

Billionaire Daryl Katz is the founder and chair of OEG, and the Oilers say he has voting control of Win50.

The foundation says Win50 is responsible for all costs related to running the raffle, including additional prizes, television and radio commercials, promotion and advertising, the raffle technology platform and many other expenses totalling millions. However, the foundation's audited statements do not provide a breakdown of exactly how Win50 spends its money.

The Oilers’ 2024 Stanley Cup run drove 50/50 ticket sales to over $102 million, nearly double that of 2023. After the jackpots were awarded, and fees and administrative costs were subtracted, $20 million, just under 20 per cent of ticket sales, was available to go to a charitable cause.

Fees paid to Win50 for the 50/50 raffles, which the foundation reports as “licence and rights fees,” were $28 million in 2024, the biggest expense aside from prize payouts. An additional $2.7 million from ticket proceeds went to pay for credit card fees.

“I think this is shocking. I think Canadians are shocked when they hear those numbers and who the money is paid to,” said Kate Bahen, managing director of Charity Intelligence Canada, a charity watchdog.

“It's not 50/50. It's 50 per cent to the winner, 27.7 per cent to the private company, Win50, and the charity at the end of the day gets around 20 per cent.”

The “staggering” amount paid to Win50 over the last four years raises a lot of questions about how the EOCF operates, Bahen said.

Myrna Khan, executive director of the EOCF, said in an email that the increased expenses seen in the foundation’s financial statements are a direct result of the 50/50 raffle’s rapid growth from a small, in-venue operation to one also selling tickets online.

“This additional volume and complexity required a complete overhaul of the operational model, including expenses and resources needed to market and operate the 50/50 across the entire province, versus the simple model of selling tickets to fans in the arena. The result has been a steep increase in revenue from the raffle to the EOCF and, thus, to beneficiaries,” Khan said.

Charitable gaming is regulated by Alberta Gaming, Liquor and Cannabis (AGLC).

In 2020, the AGLC updated provincial raffle policies to permit the online sale of 50/50 tickets and allow anyone in the province to play, greatly expanding sales beyond previous in-person purchase restrictions. Win50 is one of 13 approved electronic gaming suppliers registered with the province.

The EOCF has contracted Win50 to operate its 50/50 lotteries since 2011. Since 2021, the foundation has reported specific dollar amounts for transactions with Win50.

After the raffles moved online, the portion of ticket sales being paid to the company for “licence and rights fees” substantially increased, the foundation’s audited financial statements reveal. In 2020, 14.7 per cent of 50/50 ticket proceeds went to licence and rights fees, and that jumped to 21.4 per cent in 2021. In 2022, 27.7 per cent of 50/50 proceeds went to pay these fees. The fees stayed at 27.7 per cent in 2023 and 2024.

While the payouts to Win50 have increased, the percentage of ticket sales available for charitable activities has also steadily declined, from 37.6 per cent in 2017 to 19.6 per cent in 2024.

The Oilers said they do not charge a licence fee to the charity for the 50/50 raffles. The EOCF didn’t explain why they report all of Win50’s expenses to the CRA as “licence and rights fees.”

The IJF reviewed the 2024 financial statements from all seven Canadian hockey foundations. Along with the EOCF, three other foundations break out their charity lottery ticket sales and expenses.

The EOCF raised by far the most money from its raffles in 2024, with more than $102 million in ticket revenue, compared to the Winnipeg Jets’ True North Youth Foundation with $7.9 million, the MLSE (Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment) Foundation with $4.8 million and the Montreal Canadiens Children's Foundation with $4.5 million.

After prizes and other associated costs were deducted, the MLSE Foundation had 42.2 per cent of lottery ticket proceeds available for charitable activities, the Montreal Canadiens Children's Foundation had 36.9 per cent, and the True North Youth Foundation had 34.8 per cent.

Khan said that as the 50/50 raffle has grown, more investments have been required to operate it.

“Running the largest 50/50 raffle in professional sports requires significant investment and support. Win50 reports to the EOCF board regularly and is responsible for all costs related to the 50/50. Given its role as the leader in the space, the EOCF must continue to invest in innovation and all of the other components that have made the 50/50 successful and enable the foundation to support a wide-variety of life-changing initiatives across Oil Country,” Khan said.

“Further, all licences and expenses related to the 50/50 are approved by AGLC.”

OEG’s vice-president of communications and gaming, Tim Shipton, said Win50 won’t provide a more detailed breakdown of expenses related to the raffle for competitive reasons. He wouldn’t say what Win50’s profit was, but he said “EOCF has invested many multiples more in Edmonton and Alberta than the net to Win50.”

“The market has become over-saturated with 50/50 raffles and competition is stiff. Win50 expends significant costs and resources to ensure the continued success of the EOCF 50/50, including covering the cost of multi-million-dollar expenses to third parties for line items such as prizing (vehicles, cash, experiences, etc.), television and radio commercials, marketing and promotion, digital advertising, a greatly expanded and enhanced raffle technology platform, increased staffing, customer service, compliance requirements and other costs — many of which have been front-end loaded as we moved online and into a much larger addressable market,” Shipton said.

Shipton also emphasized how much money the EOCF has raised through its 50/50 raffles.

“The fact is: we have raised over $557 million since 2001, including $318.6 million over the past four years to support kids, families, and communities across Oil Country,” he said in an email. Shipton said the foundation was busy over the summer organizing events and supporting charities.

The Oilers' 50/50 ticket sales totalled $318.7 million between 2021 and 2024. After paying out the jackpots ($159.3 million), “licence and rights fees” ($82.8 million) and administrative costs ($9.7 million), $66.9 million went to the EOCF to be used for charity.

“Direct percentage comparisons with other foundations are misleading without considering the scale, operational complexity, market reach and success of each of these operations,” he said. The Oilers raise far more from their 50/50 raffles than any other Canadian team.

Khan said the foundation is investing in creating more of its own community programs. Funds were held in reserve to launch and grow the Every Kid Deserves a Shot initiative, and the EOCF has also taken on responsibility and costs “for grassroots, youth ice hockey, ball hockey and other multi-sport programs, as well as for Hockey Fights Cancer, Hockey Talks and a variety of other transformative community initiatives,” Khan said.

The AGLC gives groups up to 36 months to use charitable gaming proceeds.

Under Alberta’s guidelines for charitable gaming events, the foundation is permitted to deduct eligible expenses from gross raffle revenue, including an electronic raffle system. Expenses, not including the jackpot amount paid to prize winners, can’t be more than 30 per cent of the total ticket value of the raffle.

AGLC spokesperson Lynden McBeth said in an email that the AGLC can’t comment on the status of a charity it regulates. “However, all charities that hold gaming events are required to file an annual report with regards to the funds earned and where they are spent.”
 
Foundation investments in Ice District Fan Park

Bahen also noted that the EOCF invested 50/50 proceeds to develop the Ice District Fan Park in downtown Edmonton, which the foundation says is controlled by the shareholder of the Edmonton Oilers Hockey Club.

OEG Sports & Entertainment announced plans in 2022 to create a multi-use event space on a parcel of land east of Rogers Place. Over the next two years, the EOCF invested over $3 million into improvements to the Fan Park space for which the foundation won’t be reimbursed, audited financial statements show.

In 2024, the EOCF also paid $86,625 to Ice District Fan Park Corp. to host six events in the fan park.

The current agreement between the two entities grants the foundation access to the park until 2027, after which the EOCF “will not have access to the improvements unless the licence agreement is renewed.”

“The EOCF Board of Directors voted unanimously to approve a donation to help enhance public safety and otherwise improve the Fan Park so that it could become a hub for community programming — which it has become thanks to this investment. The EOCF investment in Fan Park has brought over 250 events to the space, over half of which are free of charge and/or community programming events for kids and families in need,” Khan told the IJF.

The EOCF board of directors includes Shipton, OEG CEO Jurgen Schreiber and OEG general counsel Shawna Vogel. As vice-president of communications and gaming with OEG, Shipton is also responsible for Win50, sports betting and gaming.

With the foundation entering into multi-million dollar agreements with private businesses, Bahen said there needs to be more transparency about these deals and how its finances are audited.

“The public has trust in our regulator and in proper compliance, particularly by charities. I think Canadians have very high expectations of charities, and when you say that you're raising money for charity, it needs to be very clear who's benefiting from that,” she said.

The foundation is required to file annual returns with the CRA to maintain its charitable status. A spokesperson for the CRA said it has never suspended or penalized the EOCF.

“The EOCF is governed by a volunteer Board of Directors, comprised of 12 members, nine of whom (including the Chair) are independent of Katz Group/OEG. The EOCF is fully compliant with all provincial, federal and other applicable regulatory requirements and undergoes an annual independent third-party audit to validate all financial information,” Khan said.
 
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Oilers Foundation gets a 1 out of a 5 star rating and D+ for its operations and transparency.

With the $103 million in sales in 2024, half goes to winner and of the other half, 56% was to operations etc. So nearly $30 million to operate and promote this 50/50 draw for one year - and it's not like it's an organization starting from scratch where costs may be higher at the start. A lower and lower percentage of the money is going to charity overall every year.

Oiler's response - don't focus on the percentage.
 
McDavid’s Quest

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Wayne Gretzky 5th Season
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Dominik Hasek 11th Season
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> McDavid is entering his 11th NHL season

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Kaprizov signs at a $17M AAV. That does not bode well for the upcoming McDavid extension being below that $17M.
 
Kaprizov signs at a $17M AAV. That does not bode well for the upcoming McDavid extension being below that $17M.
I don't think it will make that much difference one way or the other...

I also think Draisaitl's 8 years at $114M ($14M AAV) is just as much of a benchmark as Kaprizov's 8 years at $136M).

I can easily see McDavid signing a 3-4 year extension - rather than 8 - at say $15M which would keep him the highest paid player on the team and give him another 4-5 year extension at a higher team cap level to regain the honour of being the highest paid player in the league. Having said that, I can't see a couple of million one way or the other being a deal breaker for either side. I think for both sides it's a matter of winning more than it is a matter of money.
 

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