ssiguy2
Senior Member
Being able to use your debit card is convenient but will is stop being deducted as soon as you hit the monthly pass rate?
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That's something for the TTC board. In the back end, it's already set up for weekly capping after 10 trips.Being able to use your debit card is convenient but will is stop being deducted as soon as you hit the monthly pass rate?
This is pretty much the idea of the Ontario Line trying to intercept people at Exhibition and East Harbour and deliver them further north, to take pressure off of Union.This can't come soon enough. It would help me. Although it may make me too lazy to walk up from Union to Yonge & Dundas if I know the TTC doesn't cost me extra anymore.
All these exceptions to fares, where simply tapping your Presto is no longer the cheapest option is annoying. What stops GO simply doing daily rate-capping on Saturdays and Sundays?
All these exceptions to fares, where simply tapping your Presto is no longer the cheapest option is annoying. What stops GO simply doing daily rate-capping on Saturdays and Sundays?
Development for that is happening right now. An account-based system is currently being used for PRESTO in Google Wallet. Physical PRESTO cards should be transferred over to the account-based system as well.Presto has a number of technical constraints driven by the tiny on-card storage and software written for the original tap box which was low power and needed to calculate the fare within a small amount of time (a small fraction of the total tap time: read and write time dominated). A substantial code refactoring would be needed to make it more generalized: so developer time.
But... they could just drop Presto as a stored-value mechanism and treat it the same as a debit card instead. This eliminates nearly all of their legacy Presto complications, and also means they only need to write that mechanism once for all cards.
Originally perhaps, but my understanding is that one of the requirements for TTC to come on board, was to be able to do both daily and weekly capping. Though GO has certainly made an epic of their multi-step monthly capping - perhaps that screws up the ability to do a second type of capping.IIRC the Presto system can only do daily, weekly OR monthly capping, and they chose monthly.
I didn't realize that the TTC needed legislation to allow it to make its own cross boundary service agreements. And I wonder if the provincial government is going to do more for fare integration than just let Toronto negotiate with other transit services.Press Release: The legislation would also help the City of Toronto to better integrate its transit services with other regional transit networks by allowing the Toronto Transit Commission to enter into cross-boundary service agreements with neighbouring transit agencies.
AdditionsExclusive authority of TTC
395 (1) No person other than the TTC shall establish, operate or maintain a local passenger transportation system within the City until the TTC is dissolved or the control and management over the local passenger transportation system is removed from the TTC. 2006, c. 11, Sched. A, s. 395 (1).
Agreements with municipality or local board
(5) Despite subsection (1), the TTC may enter into an agreement with a municipality or local board authorizing the municipality or local board to operate, maintain or both operate and maintain, within the City, part of the municipality’s or local board’s local passenger transportation system on the conditions specified in the agreement.
(6) Where an agreement is made pursuant to subsection (5) for the purpose of integrating the services of the local passenger transportation system with those of the system operated by the TTC, the agreement is not a sale or transfer or deemed sale or transfer of the operation or part of the operation of the TTC under the Labour Relations Act, 1995.
(7) Where an agreement is made pursuant to subsection (5) for the purpose of integrating the services of the local passenger transportation system with those of the system operated by the TTC, the agreement does not constitute contracting out for the purposes of,
(a) any collective agreement to which the TTC is a party, including any collective agreement in operation on the day subsection 1 (3) of Schedule 1 to the Transportation for the Future Act, 2023 comes into force; and
(b) any terms and conditions of employment of the collective agreement that continue to apply following the expiry of the collective agreement.