I don't see a need for this highway, to be honest. Even if the area does get developed, it will still be within proximity to other major highways like the 401 and 407. The most I can see is a highway linking the QEW to Milton and Georgetown.
All day, high speed service could go not only to Brampton, but Guelph, Kitchener, Cambridge, Milton, from the Brampton/Georgetown area to Hamilton, and across York Region. If we shifted our resources from more highway building to transit there's no reason that couldn't happen.
The final report was released in May (28 MB PDF)
Report calls for new freeway and Norval bypass
A new north/south freeway on the east side of Halton Hills and a Norval bypass are among the new roads recommended in the Halton-Peel Boundary Area Transportation Study Final Report.
The report outlines $629 million in new roads and road improvements within the study area (between King St. to the north, approximately Hwy. 401 to the south, Trafalgar Rd. to the west and Chinguacousy Rd. to the east) by 2031 to accommodate the expected tripling of the population to 295,700 (from 91,200 in 2006).
^^ The same place as the billions that were spent on roads and highways in the past?
not sure I understand? I ddn't ask where the money comes from....I was simply asking if you could build anywhere near what MisterF suggests for the $629million that these roads will cost.
I should think for that area you could easily double or triple the total amount of bus service in that area for a large number of years on $629M (lifetime of a road is 50 years?).
I misunderstand, but my point still stands. It's not a question of replacing road money with transit money now, if the region is to be successful we need to start making up our transit debt.not sure I understand? I ddn't ask where the money comes from....I was simply asking if you could build anywhere near what MisterF suggests for the $629million that these roads will cost.
Irrespective of what has, or has not, been built in the past...I think this shows that you can get a lot more road (and, therefore, immediate impact on the transportation lives of people) for the money.
I was talking more in general terms, and threw out a bunch of projects off the top of my head. I wasn't suggesting all that could be built for the cost of this one specific roads project - obviously the scope is far larger.Sounds good but can you do all of that for this amount of money?:
I was talking more in general terms, and threw out a bunch of projects off the top of my head. I wasn't suggesting all that could be built for the cost of this one specific roads project - obviously the scope is far larger.
This part of Ontario is the one part of Canada that could support rail service comparable to the more densely populated parts of Europe. Rail lines are cheaper than freeways per kilometre.
Rail lines are cheaper? Maybe existing ones. Building new ones is surely more expensive than roads, hence the high price tag of HSR.
I don't think building a new HSR would be more expensive than a new 4 to 6 lane 400 series highway of similar length; particularly through urban areas where tunnelling may be required/wanted for either option.
HSR has broader curves and more grade issues but the highway requires a significantly larger chunk of land particularly for interchanges.