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Don’t these companies have to pay the international students minimum wage. If so how are these companies saving money?


That's corporate - and I haven't even gotten into the myriad of ways franchisees can exploit the system and/or workers in part-time roles. Do you think that a full-time fast food manager should be a role that pays $25/hr and require foreign workers to fill in one of the largest city in Canada - given the CoL of the region and that we have an unemployment rate of 7%+?

AoD
 
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That's corporate - and I haven't even gotten into the myriad of ways franchisees can exploit the system and/or workers in part-time roles. Do you think that a full-time fast food manager should be a role that pays $25/hr and require foreign workers to fill in one of the largest city in Canada - given the CoL of the region and that we have an unemployment rate of 7%+?

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Well I don’t know the answer. But I got into the conversation because someone suggested we should have minimum wage jobs around in case Canadians lose their jobs and need a place not to go homeless. I simply don’t think that’s an answer. You definitely can’t pay a mortgage with minimum wage but guess what rent is not that far behind. Rent is basically a mortgage payment minus the person having to put up the 20% down to get the bank to finance them. So to me it’s the same thing.

Anyways I’ll sound super conservative here and btw I only vote liberal. But my super liberal wife was super excited about the minimum wage increase last time it went into effect before Covid. The next day we went to the movie theatre and you guessed it the prices went up. Because companies just pass on the cost to the consumer. And companies know you have more money and they want a piece of that as well. Things just get more expensive. Which gets us to my union station thread where I’ve basically shared that in the last few years I have become a hermit since companies have replaced lower cost home in the wall restaurants and entertainment for everything being higher end. In five years I feel like I turned into an 80 year old reminiscing on the old days pricing. And I’m 45!!!!!!
 

That's corporate - and I haven't even gotten into the myriad of ways franchisees can exploit the system and/or workers in part-time roles. Do you think that a full-time fast food manager should be a role that pays $25/hr and require foreign workers to fill in one of the largest city in Canada - given the CoL of the region and that we have an unemployment rate of 7%+?

AoD

Just to note: store managers for chains in the US regularly clear six figures USD.

Or look at manager salaries for gas stations like Bucees. You make more than a graduate software engineer in Toronto.

Something is awfully rotten with Canadian business culture. A reluctance to invest in technology and automation is pretty central.
 
Just to note: store managers for chains in the US regularly clear six figures USD.

Or look at manager salaries for gas stations like Bucees. You make more than a graduate software engineer in Toronto.

Something is awfully rotten with Canadian business culture. A reluctance to invest in technology and automation is pretty central.
Well that’s impressive since fast food seems considerably cheaper in the states despite their complaining.
 
Just to note: store managers for chains in the US regularly clear six figures USD.

Or look at manager salaries for gas stations like Bucees. You make more than a graduate software engineer in Toronto.

Something is awfully rotten with Canadian business culture. A reluctance to invest in technology and automation is pretty central.
The reluctance to invest in tech and automation by Canadian businesses stems from the fact that the Feds make it so easy to acquire cheap labour in this country. Just file a LMIA report.

Look at the United States before the Civil War. The North, which banned slavery, went all in on factories and machinery. Where as the South which still allowed slavery, still used labourers and made little investments in machinery.
 
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Even when renting you just have to have a backup plan for what happens when you lose a job (money stashed away, being able to move back with family or share a place with friends, moving to a lower cost of living place etc). It's not the governments responsibility to protect jobs at all costs, it's your responsibility to make sure your skills and experience are valuable in the job market.

I will remember this comment in 30 years when automation has thrown us all out of work.

What is the government's responsibility, in your eyes, if looking out for the best interests of their citizens is not?
 

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