just east of the creek
- May 1, 2020
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Thanks Drum. Thanks for the review.Working with Waterfront Toronto since 2004, they have been clear that the east Gardiner had to go as the numbers did not support it as well being poorly use for land use.
Over the years, numbers came up while working on various project that range from 25-35,000 daily use, with about 20% using it to bypass the 401 or used the old lake Shore ramp. These numbers come from counter place on the the road as well looking a plate numbers. When we did the EA for QQW redevelopment, all plates numbers were looked at over a number of periods to see who was using QQW in the first place with 65% being non locals bypass the Lake Shore or the Gardiner itself. It also supported the reduction of the lanes since only 675 would be using it hourly max outside special events.
The idea for an new Lake Shore east was to do an University style by pushing far north to the rail embankment with an focus on pedestrians crossing it having more rights than traffic. The 2004 Transit Master Plan originally had an LRT going east to Woodbine more of an express line and connecting to Queen and Kingston Rd that was approved by TTC commissioners and Council. The LRT line was removed by TTC staff when the province during the EA approval stage requested the plan to be split into 3 section. It wasn't know to most parties of the removal of the LRT line until a few years when the Cherry St Line EA started..
Numbers for the western section of the Gardiner has been between 150-200,000 daily with higher numbers for special events like sports games as well other things. More in the range of 175,000 today.
End of the day, peak numbers skew the real numbers, but its clearly the east has to go. To think what that area will look like, just look at Harbour St with that ramp gone an a park being built in place of part of it.
The problem with working for a living and having to send working hours, well, working, is that it cuts into valuable time that could be spent on UrbanToronto. There is a lot of information on UT and trying to stay somewhat current can be challenging (in a positive way). When we had many more zoom meetings in my working life, it was easier to manage fitting in UT time. Now that clients feel that face to face is a viable meeting proposition (for them), its harder. The upside of course, is that moving around and in and out of the City and the GTA allows one to detour down Eglington or Hurontario (as an example) to see what's what Not always the direct route, but the level of interest is higher.
Thanks for your insight on this topic.