[Videodrome]

http://www.thestar.com/news/city_ha...ugh-subway-mess-broke-council-procedures.html

I will put this here, since it happened during Ford's time as mayor.

 

[animatronic]

Could someone please make a mash-up video of Tory's Kanye subway ride vs Rob's cracked-out subway ride?

 

[the lemur]

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United Jewdism Federation.

 

[pattycakes]

Live Tweeting of the Conflict of Interest:

Chris Caple ‏@chriscaple 33m33 minutes agoToronto, Ontario
Fords' lawyer arguing @judemacdonald should've read all community council meeting minutes in detail & pointed out corruption sooner.

 

[PinkLucy]

So Ford's lawyer is admitting there was corruption? And the problem is that it wasn't pointed out sooner? Because if it isn't pointed out until later, it's all good?

 

[the lemur]

It already has a name: Villiers Island.

http://www.thestar.com/bigideas/2014/07/08/big_ideas_a_new_island_to_anchor_the_port_lands.html

Villiers St/Island make me think of Echo & the Bunnymen's 'Villiers Terrace':

I've been up to Villiers Terrace
To see what's a-happening
There's people rolling 'round on the carpet
Mixing up the medicine​

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which sounds kinda Fordian in a 15 Windsor sort of way ...​

 

[pud99]

 

[pud99]

So Ford's lawyer is admitting there was corruption? And the problem is that it wasn't pointed out sooner? Because if it isn't pointed out until later, it's all good?

No, he's arguing along the lines of "even if there was a conflict - not admitting that there was - the complaint is too late". He does not have to admit that there was conflict in order to make that argument, and if the court were to buy his argument that the complaint is too late then, from the perspective of the court application, the question of whether or not there was a conflict would become irrelevant. (If, say, I breach my contract with you but you do not try to sue me until the limitation period for suing me has expired that will not mean that I didn't breach the contract but it will mean that it is too late for you to get the court to give you a remedy for my breach.)

 

[PinkLucy]

So ... is there a time period in which a citizen is required to point out corruption?

I think Mr. Caple nailed it in the tweet you posted above.

 

[kaboi]

So ... is there a time period in which a citizen is required to point out corruption?

I think Mr. Caple nailed it in the tweet you posted above.

Six weeks from the point at which the citizen becomes aware of the conflict to file, up to six years after the date of the transgression. Jude's affidavit details how she became aware, and in great detail. Sounds like Fords' lawyer is arguing that a) Jude is lying and/or b) if she didn't know sooner, she should have, based on publicly available community council meeting notes where Doug Ford once declared a conflict. Once.

 

[pud99]

So ... is there a time period in which a citizen is required to point out corruption?

Yes. The Municipal Conflicts of Interest Act provides:

The Fords' lawyer seems to be trying to argue that the 6 weeks ought to be counted from when, he claims, Jude MacDonald "ought to have known". That seems a weak argument to me, given that the statute says "comes to his or her knowledge", not "became or ought to have become known to him or her".

 

[pud99]

 

[PinkLucy]

Thank you for that clarification. I agree that "ought to have known" seems like a weak argument. Is it expected that every citizen reads all council minutes, so we should all "ought to know"? The statute makes sense (to my non-legal eyes) -- you happen to be reading the minutes/reports/documents and note the conflict.

 

[pud99]

...which sounds kinda Fordian in a 15 Windsor sort of way ...

Speaking of which:

 

[pud99]

Thank you for that clarification. I agree that "ought to have known" seems like a weak argument. Is it expected that every citizen reads all council minutes, so we should all "ought to know"? The statute makes sense (to my non-legal eyes) -- you happen to be reading the minutes/reports/documents and note the conflict.

Seems like the judge agrees with you and me: