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rbt

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Wonder where TTC is on the list??

Don't know but Moscow ought to be in top 5 and didn't show. Chicago is #6 and there are dozens of smaller cities in Europe (like Munich, Helsinki, ...) and even a few locations in North America (Mexico City) which are far more efficient at getting people from A to B. Zurich makes the list but Bern and Geneva don't? Switzerland has roughly the same level of transit through the entire country.

This reads like a "Here's some places I've heard about for a commissioned article" list.
 
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This list has absolutely no rationale or explanation of its criteria on what is 'great'. The TTC may well not be in the world's Top 10 but this list is not one to use as a guide.

I agree. You cannot just trust this random list and expect people to think that every system on the list is automatically "great"
 

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Wonder where TTC is on the list??
Chicago definitely doesn't deserve to be 6th, but it still should be on this list. That city's public transit has improved immensely over the past decade, and they still want to make things better. It's definitely the best system in North America by far (not too crowded, but efficient and generally clean).

I don't understand why London is 2nd. It's expensive, insanely overcrowded, not that affordable, and dated. Madrid is another question mark. Dubai's system is just a gimmick. Tokyo deserves to be much much higher, and Vienna should be on this list as well. Hell, what about Seoul?
 

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Chicago definitely doesn't deserve to be 6th, but it still should be on this list. That city's public transit has improved immensely over the past decade, and they still want to make things better. It's definitely the best system in North America by far (not too crowded, but efficient and generally clean).

I don't understand why London is 2nd. It's expensive, insanely overcrowded, not that affordable, and dated. Madrid is another question mark. Dubai's system is just a gimmick. Tokyo deserves to be much much higher, and Vienna should be on this list as well. Hell, what about Seoul?
Seems like it was thrown together by somebody who just googled transit systems. Chicago was pretty efficient when I was there, but I doubt it would be the 6th best system in the world.
 

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Seems like it was thrown together by somebody who just googled transit systems. Chicago was pretty efficient when I was there, but I doubt it would be the 6th best system in the world.
Look at the site it came from! They specialise in preparing lists of best, worst, largest, stupidist etc etc. and seem to do nothing else. Let's move on, it's click bait!
 

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Look at the site it came from! They specialise in preparing lists of best, worst, largest, stupidist etc etc. and seem to do nothing else. Let's move on, it's click bait!
lol good eye. Agreed.
 

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Remember when the TTC got the award for the best transit system in north america?
 

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Remember when the TTC got the award for the best transit system in north america?
To be fair, they won the APTA Award for being 'most improved".

"Five years ago, the TTC launched its inaugural Corporate Plan to modernize every aspect of the business and to transform the customer experience. This award recognizes the TTC’s success in meeting the goals of the Corporate Plan. Achievements over the past five years include: ..."
 

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To be fair, they won the APTA Award for being 'most improved".

"Five years ago, the TTC launched its inaugural Corporate Plan to modernize every aspect of the business and to transform the customer experience. This award recognizes the TTC’s success in meeting the goals of the Corporate Plan. Achievements over the past five years include: ..."
And Andy Byford's work to improve the TTC in those 5 years was genuinely deserving of celebrating. Our system has a lot of problems, and getting a bunch of things fixed is something I genuinely think we should be proud of. Too bad we seem to ignore the fact that improvements need to be continuously made, and we're starting to neglect the system we were starting to improve.
 

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If I see Buffalo MetroRail and/or MARTA making the list of best rapid transit systems in North America (not the same as most improved rapid transit system in North America) and not be a joke list, I would need to question the credibility of the list creator(s).
 

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If we're going to make this a thread, allow me to introduce you to this wonderful POS posted by Business Insider:
Somehow, Philadelphia and Toronto are below Miami and San Francisco, and Chicago is only #7.

Even though this one has some methodology, said methodology is completely flawed. Baltimore, Long Beach do not deserve to be on this list, and San Francisco should not be number 1 by these metrics.

This one is for just canada. Never in a million years did I think Montreal was 3rd, or that Mississauga, Brampton, and Winnipeg had better transit than Ottawa, or how KW isn't at least number 8 on this list.


The top 3 for this list is in some stupid order. The TTC is, without a doubt, the best public transit agency in Canada. One can argue that the Montreal Metro is better than the toronto subway, but you cannot argue that STM is better than the TTC. Vancouver should not be #1.

Another BS list.

Screw this, I should go to sleep.
 

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And Andy Byford's work to improve the TTC in those 5 years was genuinely deserving of celebrating. Our system has a lot of problems, and getting a bunch of things fixed is something I genuinely think we should be proud of. Too bad we seem to ignore the fact that improvements need to be continuously made, and we're starting to neglect the system we were starting to improve.
TTC 2010 versus 2020 is essentially a 25-to-50 year futuristic leap, with those open gangway trains, new streetcars, new tapcard (when working), new faregates (when working), improved ROWs (King, Quay, etc), 21st century extension stations.

Such huge generational leaps made on multiple fronts. Not enough expansion quick enough, but big compared to many NA cities.
 

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If we're going to make this a thread, allow me to introduce you to this wonderful POS posted by Business Insider:
Somehow, Philadelphia and Toronto are below Miami and San Francisco, and Chicago is only #7.

The San Francisco urban area has the second highest transit ridership per capita in the US, behind only New York.

Chicago and Philadelphia are about the same as Guelph. They aren't that great.

This one is for just canada. Never in a million years did I think Montreal was 3rd, or that Mississauga, Brampton, and Winnipeg had better transit than Ottawa, or how KW isn't at least number 8 on this list.

I don't see what is the major difference between Kitchener-Waterloo, Mississauga, Brampton and Winnipeg. Similar-sized systems with similar ridership and similar service level. Add Quebec, London and Hamilton as well.

Canadian cities are pretty much all the same. It makes sense to rank US systems because there is so much variation between them, but rankings for Canada is just pointless.
 

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