These days, until the 1950s, the entrances would have to include, not just stairs, but escalators (both up and down, along with a spare in case of breakdowns), and elevators (two, in case of breakdowns).I mean unlikely but I'd love to see a cafe or something as well as the entrance in these buildings. A subway entrance does not need to take up the whole building.
Right, but do both entrances to the station need to accommodate all that? Or can they just be crammed into one, leaving the other more available for retail/restaurant purposes?These days, until the 1950s, the entrances would have to include, not just stairs, but escalators (both up and down, along with a spare in case of breakdowns), and elevators (two, in case of breakdowns).
There were multiple parties involved, but yes the city played a very strong role in making the "entertainment" district what it is today (ie: virtually devoid of any entertainment)."The city's insistence on killing the Entertainment District"? That's a creative retelling of history there, friend...
There were multiple parties involved, but yes the city played a very strong role in making the "entertainment" district what it is today (ie: virtually devoid of any entertainment).
Yes this is essentially the backstory of it all, which I didnt really want to go into much detail for the sake of keeping the thread from deviating too much. I wont argue that the previous clubs didnt bring trouble (they did) but ultimately the city could have done more to ensure additional forms of entertainment could be accommodated while all the new residential development was being brought online. They didnt, and most of the retail that is on the strip now virtually all complain that it's damn near impossible to do good business and we've seen a lot of them being forced shutter for one reason or another (this is pre-COVID btw).This is revisionist (or at the very least misleading perhaps on account of definitional differences). The back story is that ED had a real problem with crime that needed fixing, and the prescribed solution was, in broad strokes, to reduce the number of douchey clubs that chronically attracted trouble, through redevelopment that brought an injection of a more varied type of retail offerings and, of course, a substantial amount of residential.
The busy section of the Entertainment District today is from Bathurst to Spadina (where most of the remaining bars/clubs/restaurants) are located. Go east of Spadina and you'll see that the area is virtually dead in the evening throughout the week, asides from people walking to and from the King/Spadina area from said bars and restaurants. There are various other developments on the books which are pretty much set to dismantle the remaining busy section from Bathurst to Spadina.If "entertainment" means douchey clubs, yes, there are far fewer of those, now, and to me (and most, I would argue), that is a good thing. But it's nuts to claim that any broader definition of "entertainment" is gone from the ED; I would argue that there is now more "entertainment" in the neighbourhood than there ever has been. Take a stroll down King from John-ish to Bathurst on any Thursday-through-Sunday and you'll see so many people engaging in various types of entertainment that they're literally spilling off the sidewalks and into the street.
… set to dismantle the remaining busy section from Bathurst to Spadina.
I would argue king / portland is the heart of the entertainment district right now rather than king / Bathurst though^You're right it's not just clubbing that makes up entertainment, and entertainment is encompassed with various different factors. But let's be honest here, there are at least 5 different areas of the city that are much more lively then the current "entertainment" district.
The district's name once accurately reflected what one could expect to see when they explored the area, but that's really no longer the case. Whether it's right or wrong, the construction of the King-Bathurst station will pretty much spell the end for the remaining "entertainment" factor in the district.