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For me, a good interim solution would be to complete Woodbine GO Station and replace the technology used on the "last mile" from there to Terminal 1 with a light metro that can accelerate quickly and doesn't need to slow down as much for the small-radius curves on the bridges. To compensate for having to change modes, increase the frequency of Union-Bramalea-Union trains to at least 6 per hour, making the service "turn up and go" with paired service to the airport. Provide grade-separated access for the metro to a bay platform at Woodbine, giving cross-platform transfer to/from Union, and have Kitchener trains stop at Woodbine with over-the bridge transfers.
 
While potentially useful, the importance of the transit hub - especially considering the current trends - seems overstated at this point. I'd rather put the money into proper HF/SR in the Toronto/Montreal corridor.

AoD
Ideally shouldn't be an either/or scenario. The Feds can pour money into the TOR/MON rail corridor while finding solutions for the Transit Hub. It would, however, require more political will and appetite to actually want to upgrade the transit infrastructure in this country than the Fed Liberals have shown thus far.

The usefulness of a Transit Hub shouldn't be directly tied to flying trends in regards to Pearson, unless we think the people working and travelling to the lands in/around the airport will suddenly fall off a cliff. The western GTA needs a multi-modal hub in the worst way. The kitchener line goes right by Pearson in almost a perfect curve. Requiring riders headed to the Pearson area from Kitchener/Guelph to go all the way to Union(or Weston GO) for a transfer back up the same line is maddening.
 
Ideally shouldn't be an either/or scenario. The Feds can pour money into the TOR/MON rail corridor while finding solutions for the Transit Hub. It would, however, require more political will and appetite to actually want to upgrade the transit infrastructure in this country than the Fed Liberals have shown thus far.

The usefulness of a Transit Hub shouldn't be directly tied to flying trends in regards to Pearson, unless we think the people working and travelling to the lands in/around the airport will suddenly fall off a cliff. The western GTA needs a multi-modal hub in the worst way. The kitchener line goes right by Pearson in almost a perfect curve. Requiring riders headed to the Pearson area from Kitchener/Guelph to go all the way to Union(or Weston GO) for a transfer back up the same line is maddening.

The density of the surrounding area isn't high enough to justify a hub given how diffuse it was - and you don't really need a multi-billion dollar hub to improve the provision of transit in the area. In fact, I would argue increasing the frequency of existing services is probably more helpful than building a hub in the short/medium term.

AoD
 
In the absence of decent higher order transit and regional/intercity rail service, a transit hub really doesn't make any sense yet. Terminal 1's bus platforms are nowhere near maxed out, and they deliver passengers right to the terminal door.

That would change if HxR ever gets done, especially if it is extended west of Toronto as an alternative to short distance flights which soak up too much of the airport's capacity.

What is important in the nearer term is for the Eglinton and Finch LRT's to be tied in in some sensible way that is future proofed for eventual expansion. A link to the Hurontario LRT would make a lot of sense.

It will come, just not yet.

- Paul
 
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I think a more modest Pearson transit plan could be done by...
  • Extending Line 5 to Pearson (hopefully close to the current UPX/Link T1 station).
  • Extending Line 6 to (Woodbine) Racetrack with a UPX stop for those needing to go to YYZ.
  • Stopping all VIA/GO trains at Racetrack for a quick change to UPX. VIA would no longer service Malton, perhaps Weston too.
 
In the absence of decent higher order transit and regional/intercity rail service, a transit hub really doesn't make any sense yet. Terminal 1's bus platforms are nowhere near maxed out, and they deliver passengers right to the terminal door.

That would change if HxR ever gets done, especially if it is extended west of Toronto as an alternative to short distance flights which soak up too much of the airport's capacity.

What is important in the nearer term is for the Eglinton and Finch LRT's to be tied in in some sensible way that is future proofed for eventual expansion. A link to the Hurontario LRT would make a lot of sense.

It will come, just not yet.
https://jewelcars.co.uk/brighton-to-gatwick-taxi
- Paul
Access to terminal 3 is blocked/slow by City cab and limo guys lining up into waiting area near for limos.
 
Access to terminal 3 is blocked/slow by City cab and limo guys lining up into waiting area near for limos.
It's been a number of years since I worked down there but limos and requested taxis have a staging lot and are called up by a dispatcher/coordinator. There usually shouldn't be that many stacked at Arrivals. Poaching taxis are another matter, along with private cars who park or circuit and are too lazy/inconsiderate to use the cel-phone lot and a few unlicenced taxis/limos. Enforcement is generally a mess.
 
I think a more modest Pearson transit plan could be done by...
  • Extending Line 5 to Pearson (hopefully close to the current UPX/Link T1 station).
  • Extending Line 6 to (Woodbine) Racetrack with a UPX stop for those needing to go to YYZ.
  • Stopping all VIA/GO trains at Racetrack for a quick change to UPX. VIA would no longer service Malton, perhaps Weston too.
I thought when they built T1 that a station was roughed in for some kind of transit link already? Plus based on metrolinx, there are already funds committed by the feds and prov to extend eglington. Just need it finalized. Maybe I misread.
 

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