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If I were Pinnacle, I would have thrown money out of my pocket to improve the design and create a Gem in the Toronto skyline, so in the future when people look at and ask who built this, they would know that freaken Pinnacle built this gem. Instead, they only created Carbon with this design, not a diamond. No one will care. Pinnacle lost a major opportunity here, and so did Toronto.
 

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If I were Pinnacle, I would have thrown money out of my pocket to improve the design and create a Gem in the Toronto skyline, so in the future when people look at and ask who built this, they would know that freaken Pinnacle built this gem. Instead, they only created Carbon with this design, not a diamond. No one will care. Pinnacle lost a major opportunity here, and so did Toronto.
You don't think the current design will still make it one of the more unique buildings on the Toronto skyline?
 

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You don't think the current design will still make it one of the more unique buildings on the Toronto skyline?
It's unique because it will be so tall. If this was anything around 250 metres or under it would start to blend in with everything else that's being put up there. So it's not really offering anything startling or distinct from that perspective, IMO.
 

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It's unique because it will be so tall. If this was anything around 250 metres or under it would start to blend in with everything else that's being put up there. So it's not really offering anything startling or distinct from that perspective, IMO.
Fair enough. It's definitely not "stand-out" like the Gehry towers or something, but I'd still say the lines and curves on it make it somewhat special, at least by Toronto standards. Certainly not your standard glass box at least.
 

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Fair enough. It's definitely not "stand-out" like the Gehry towers or something, but I'd still say the lines and curves on it make it somewhat special, at least by Toronto standards. Certainly not your standard glass box at least.
I'll least give it that.
 

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Fair enough. It's definitely not "stand-out" like the Gehry towers or something, but I'd still say the lines and curves on it make it somewhat special, at least by Toronto standards. Certainly not your standard glass box at least.

I think the original rendering would have made it somewhat unique :(
 

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Phase 1 isn't a unique design by any means either and yet it's arguably the best tall building on the entire waterfront.

I don't think Pinnicle is going to suddenly value engineer the preimire building in the entire project, we should be fine here.
What makes you think that? They already have, depending on how you look at things ("changed the design").
 

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What makes you think that? They already have, depending on how you look at things ("changed the design").
Here's the thing. To my understanding, Phase two was to have a curtain (?) wall similar to CIBC Square. Phase 3 was supposed to have a rooftop glass enclosed restaurant of sorts. Both of these are gone from the current plans...

...now I believe it was suggested here when those changes where posted that the newer design would be more expensive to build. Personally, I now think that was a load of spin and poppycock. As I can't see how the current design would be so, outside of using more materials because they just added more floors. Hence and therefore, it got value engineered, IMO.
 

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Here's the thing. To my understanding, Phase two was to have a curtain (?) wall similar to CIBC Square. Phase 3 was supposed to have a rooftop glass enclosed restaurant of sorts. Both of these are gone from the current plans...

...now I believe it was suggested here when those changes where posted that the newer design would be more expensive to build. Personally, I now think that was a load of spin and poppycock. As I can't see how the current design would be so, outside of using more materials because they just added more floors. Hence and therefore, it got value engineered, IMO.
Is it confirmed Phase 2 won’t have curtain wall? Renders seem to show it’ll have curtain wall or at least a hybrid system.

You’re telling me Canada’s tallest building is going to be a 340m tall monument of window walls and spandrel?
 

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Is it confirmed Phase 2 won’t have curtain wall? Renders seem to show it’ll have curtain wall or at least a hybrid system.

You’re telling me Canada’s tallest building is going to be a 340m tall monument of window walls and spandrel?
I most certainly hope not. >.<
 

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Given Phase 1 uses curtain wall in places, it would be weird for them to not use it at all in Phase 2, the main building of the entire project. Yes it will likely be window wall behind the balconies, but the sections without could absolutely still be curtain wall, as is the case on the tower that has already been built. I think using Phase 1 as a reference is more useful than just making doom and gloom speculation.
 

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From Thursday last week

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did you use the wrong compression settings or something

i can't even read the kotsy cloud

It appears the export settings I use in photoshop now has a cap of 7/10 quality. I've replaced the photos using a different method.
 

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