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Post threads for any others you know of. This is fascinating, and I'm sure other members feel the same.

^ Construction has begun for Schneider's redevelopment I believe.


^ A little out-of-date now, as I believe CF are reworking their entire vision for Fairview Park Mall. We can expect some greater density there. Private developers are snapping up some of the parcels nearby Fairview Station too, I think there is a potential for a whole high-density district to form there.
 

^ Construction has begun for Schneider's redevelopment I believe.


^ A little out-of-date now, as I believe CF are reworking their entire vision for Fairview Park Mall. We can expect some greater density there. Private developers are snapping up some of the parcels nearby Fairview Station too, I think there is a potential for a whole high-density district to form there.



As at November, 2020, according to Streetview:

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The metz:

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The metz is one of the larger developments in Waterloo region. 19 building mega development sitting the outskirts of downtown. Formerly a Schneiders plant, the entire site minus an old brick structure has been demolished but I dont believe construction has begun yet

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The timeline for the phases has definitely been pushed back due to covid, if I had to guess probably by two years.

Auburn also did barrelyards which was the multi phase development that kicked off the kw building boom. Unfortunately that site is a disaster so hopefully this turns out better.
 
They should wait on developing that townhouse block till a later phase as well. There may be more appetite for a mid-rise development on that block closer to 2030.

Alternatively, convert that block to a public park and up the density throughout the rest of the site.
 
From 'The Record', June 19, 2023

KITCHENER — It was a big blow to the community when the Schneiders meat plant on Courtland Avenue closed in 2015 after 90 years of production.
Eight years after Schneiders jobs moved to a new plant in Hamilton, the land left behind will be put to use to help solve a housing crisis.
Kitchener councillors voted 11-0 Monday to approve a long-considered plan to transform the site into 3,345 purpose-built rental units, contained largely in 13 towers from five to 38 storeys.
Councillors hailed the project as the right plan for an iconic site. They lauded developer Jamie Crich for giving city hall all it wanted and more.
“This is a remarkable development,” Coun. Christine Michaud said. “It’s going to be a beautiful, beautiful area compared to what it is now,” Coun. Jason Deneault said.

“It will be quite an addition to the community. The sooner, the better,” Coun. Bil Ioannidis said.

Demolition has left the 10-hectare industrial site mostly vacant. Three surviving Schneiders buildings will be used for shops and jobs and business — a six-storey office building, a warehouse and a former maintenance garage.
Residential towers will cover the bulk of the site: eight towers of 16 and 38 storeys, five medium-rise buildings of five to eight storeys, and one low-rise block of townhouses.

There will be two parks, one of them city-owned, and a multi-use trail. Almost 4,000 parking spaces are to be scattered underground or on the surface. Two Ion rail transit stations (Borden and Mill) are within 600 metres.
Redevelopment was first proposed in 2019 and has been revised since then. It has also been delayed; Crich, whose family firm, Auburn Developments, is behind the Barrel Yards towers in central Waterloo, once hoped to begin construction in 2020.

He now aims to start construction this summer and build in stages. The project he estimates at $1-billion is the largest that his London, Ont.-based firm has undertaken. It may take a decade to complete.
“It’s nice to see this finally come to fruition,” Crich said. “We think it’s going to be a great asset for the community.”

The approved plan is taller and denser than first proposed, with one more tower and fewer townhouse blocks. It has 527 more dwellings than first proposed and it now includes 143 units with three bedrooms.
Affordable units have been increased by two-thirds. There will be 135 affordable units that will rent for 20 per cent below market rate for 25 years. Parking for electric vehicles has been added.
A planned city-owned park is 50 per cent bigger than first proposed. Tall towers have been redesigned to align with city guidelines.
Crich will put $850,000 into 97 Victoria, a housing project for unsheltered people proposed in downtown Kitchener. “To have a developer offer this contribution is pretty amazing,” said Joe Mancini, co-founder of the Working Centre that’s behind the housing project.

End of an era for Schneiders​

Auburn bought the Schneiders site in 2017. J.M. Schneider built the factory there in 1924 when it was on the outskirts of the city.
When the last pack of bologna rolled off the production line in 2015, teary-eyed factory workers remembered Schneiders as one of the last big manufacturers in Kitchener, where people could get a job right out of high school and stay until retirement.
“It was just terrible to see those jobs lost,” Crich said. He knows the property is iconic and that many people in the community have a connection to it. There is a plan to name one of the open spaces JM Schneider Platz.
“We wanted to honour that and make sure that we could do what we could to make sure that lives on,” Crich said.

Jeff Outhit is a Waterloo Region-based general assignment reporter for The Record. Reach him via email: jouthit@therecord.com
 
This project has been revised since it was first approved back in June. In the article above it is referencing the initial approval that the development got at the Planning and Strategic Initiatives Committee meeting. Between the committee meeting and the final approval at council the developer increased the height of some buildings significantly. The new approved plan contains 3985 units compared to the 3345 within the first approval (640 more units). The developer is placing a significant portion of the affordable housing units in the first phase of the development and is increasing the donation that they are making to The Working Center up to 1 million dollars. The increase in density does not result in any changes to the floor plates of the buildings, what is changing is the heights. Building D, E, F, and G are getting this height increase, it is not public knowledge as to how many floors each building is increasing by however the net increase is 40 floors (85 floors combined to 125). The developers stated that even with the increase in heights the tallest building on the site is still going to be 38 floors.

The developer did not do this purely because they want to make more profit, Councillor Davey (Kitchener Ward 1) approached the developers and asked if they could increase the number of units primarily because of the housing crisis. The developers were receptive of this and it resulted in the changes that are now approved. Since this approval Councillor Davey has continued to ask for an increase in height for every development that has come to the Planning and Strategic Initiatives Committee since the Metz project. This has resulted in 1 development to get an increase in height to 27 floors from 17 with a net gain of 116 units, 32 of which will be affordable which is up from 0. Another project which was brought to the Committee last week is currently working on making changes to the proposal, currently the new proposal is for 32 floors up from 25, the unit count is not yet public. All of these developments have been within an MTSA so the increase in density makes sense. Ever since Councillor Davey has asked developers for these things a few other councillors have started to agree with him including the Ward 2 and Ward 6 councillors while another councillor representing Ward 9 has now started to get mad as she doesn't believe it is fair for there to be no public consultation for the newer proposals. (She is your typically NIMBY so this is expected of her).

Now because this situation has occurred so many times within the last 2 months a few of the department heads within the city are getting quite annoyed with council. Council has started to recognize this and are planning on bringing a motion forward for the planning department to ask developers if they'd be willing to increase height before the proposal comes to council, this will hopefully only be an issue for the next few months as the city is currently working on a new zoning bylaw for the areas within MTSAs called Growing Together which will get rid of the restrictive zoning downtown (29% of the land within the MTSAs is zoned for unlimited height and FSR). The next Planning and Strategic Initiatives Committee meeting is supposed to contain 2 very suburban developments which are asking for reasonable heights for the areas already so it will be interesting to see if this trend continues. One of the developments coming to the committee is next to an approved 34 floor building which is the tallest approved building in the city not within an MTSA, yet the developers are only asking for 22 and 14 floors so I can definitely see Councillor Davey as well as the Ward 6 councillor asking for an increase in height.
 
Auburn has now started the shoring work on this site however don't have any permits in place, however the Kitchener portal may have a bit of a delay in updating but it seems to be that Auburn is doing this without permits since they didn't have them a week ago when they started shoring.

Auburn has applied for the following permits:

Shoring for buildings A/B/C
Foundation for buildings A/B/C
Balance of Construction for buildings A/B/C (541 units in total)

There is no easy place to get a picture into the site, at least of the area they are currently working, they have installed an 8 foot tall wooden fence made with 6x6s and plywood around the vast majority of the street fronting areas of the site. So the picture I have isn't good but here it is.

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