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adys123

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In any case - beyond the lack of ATC or platform barriers - just what is particularly technologically outdated about Line 2?

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Well, yes, that's a point too... aside from their clear desire to cancel all these projects by unrealistically ballooning the costs and making them more 'fancy'
 

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Well, yes, that's a point too... aside from their clear desire to cancel all these projects by unrealistically ballooning the costs and making them more 'fancy'

Because technologically advanced mass transit tends to be "cheaper"? I guess he must have been talking to Elon and his boring company.

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The two letters that have been posted contract quite severely in 'who is to blame' so to speak.

Did anyone notice in the recently posted MTO by WKLis, they made a comment about making the relief line not 'beholden to the technologically-outdated Line 2' while in two points above, they advocated for the extension of the Scarborough Subway with the so called 'technologically-outdated Line 2'.
I guess there's a difference between an extension, that has to use the same technology, and a brand new line where any possibility can be explored.
 

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I guess there's a difference between an extension, that has to use the same technology, and a brand new line where any possibility can be explored.
Not necessarily. Recall the Tories 1970s and early 1980s plans to extend Line 2 in both directions, using a different technology. SRT strikes back!
 

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I guess there's a difference between an extension, that has to use the same technology, and a brand new line where any possibility can be explored.

This reeks of the SRT all over again. The TTC wanted to run streetcars in Scarborough hence the Kennedy Station Loop. The province then seized the opportunity to showcase a Made in Ontario solution, the Mark I cars made by UTDC.

They SRT had a completely different design originally but the switch to LIM trains mandated grade separation hence the pylons and guideway.

Everyone knows how well that ended...
 

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TTC operators are wearing protest t-shirts today.
 

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From link.

The second letter from March 26th.
 

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The inability to get things right in official letters signed by the DM on basic matters - to the point of requiring another follow up letter is certainly confidence inspiring stuff.
It is stunning. Michael Lindsay must be completely ignorant about transit in Toronto if he thought the 3-station project that has been floating around for much of the decade terminated at Scarborough Centre.

Where did they find this clown? It's not like it's just a typo, it was spelled out very clearly in his first letter ... no one is that incompetent!
 

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It is stunning. Michael Lindsay must be completely ignorant about transit in Toronto if he thought the 3-station project that has been floating around for much of the decade terminated at Scarborough Centre.

Where did they find this clown? It's not like it's just a typo, it was spelled out very clearly in his first letter ... no one is that incompetent!

Or that it is calculated to generate "costs doubling" headlines - which appears to be partially successful (e.g. Globe - Future subways for Toronto will cost more than expected, letters from the province indicate).

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Still trying to translate "a different technology for the project" for the Relief Line? Do they mean LRT or ATC?
 

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Still trying to translate "a different technology for the project" for the Relief Line? Do they mean LRT or ATC?

At this point I am not sure if there is even any points in guessing - the province doesn't look particularly keen to share details until it's a fait accompli (Confidentiality clauses, etc)

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It is stunning. Michael Lindsay must be completely ignorant about transit in Toronto if he thought the 3-station project that has been floating around for much of the decade terminated at Scarborough Centre.

Where did they find this clown? It's not like it's just a typo, it was spelled out very clearly in his first letter ... no one is that incompetent!
Something's being lost somewhere in the QP loop. This could be another 'Verster moment'. The question is whether they kill them before implanting the Con Worm into their ears to eat into the cranial cavity.

The man is well accomplished, in fact, I'm a bit surprised as to how availed he is of leading tech methods:
Experience
  • Ansaldo STS A Hitachi Group Company
    Senior Project Engineer Turnkey Railway Sytems
    Ansaldo STS A Hitachi Group Company

    February 2017 – Present 2 years 2 months
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
  • Bombardier Transportation Rail Control Solutions
    Bombardier Transportation Rail Control Solutions

    27 years
    • Onboard Hardware Team Supervisor, Technical Expert ATP/ATO Onboard Systems
      Bombardier Transportation Rail Control Solutions

      June 2015 – Present 3 years 10 months
      Greater Pittsburgh Area
      Lead Onboard Hardware Team for Automatic Train Control Product Cityflo 650
      Engineering and Product Development
      Current Projects:
      Eglinton Crosstown LRT (Metrolinx, Crosslinx, Toronto Canada)
      Chicago Airport People Mover
      San Francisco Airport Line of Sight Radio Upgrade
      Sao Paulo Line 5
    • Senior ATC Systems Specialist
      Bombardier Transportation Rail Control Solutions

      June 2013 – June 2015 2 years 1 month
      Bangkok Thailand
      Onboard VATC System Integration for Cityflo 650 South East Asia Projects
      Transfer of Cityflo 650 Application Knowledge to APAC Regional Engineering
      Klang Valley MRT
      Delhi Metro Line7
      Bangkok Purple Line
      Shenzhen Line 3, 33 Car Add-on Transfer of Technology
      Tianjin Lines 2&3 Extension, Transfer of Technology
    • Senior Design Engineer, Functional Engineering Supervisor
      Bombardier Transportation Rail Control Solutions

      August 2005 – June 2013 7 years 11 months
      Greater Pittsburgh Area
      Cityflo 650 Wayside and Onboard Hardware Design
      Projects:
      Lead Hardware Engineer for Yong-In South Korea
      Lead Hardware Engineer for King Abdullah Financial District Monorail
      Lead Hardware Engineer for Sao Paulo Monorail
      Singapore Downtown People Mover
      BART Bay Area Rapid Transit, CityFlo 550 Contract (2013)
      DFW Airport Radio Upgrade, Designed new Radio interface PCB and Backplane
      Experience with writing and executing Vehicle Product Qualification Testing:
      Shock and Vibration (IEC 61373), EMC (50121-3-2 & 50121-4)
    • Customer Service Lead Engineer
      Bombardier Transportation (BTNA)

      April 1992 – August 2005 13 years 5 months
      Greater New York City Area
      R110 Subway Car Project: "New Technology Prototype Train"
      Acceptance, System Integration Testing, and Reliability Demonstration.
      First Subway Cars in NYC with AC Propulsion, regenerative braking, and Intelligent networked sub-systems.
      R142 Subway Car Contract (1,120 Cars):
      Acceptance, System Integration Testing, and Reliability Demonstration.
      Lead Field Support Team to improve MDBF from 50,000 miles/month to 300,000+ miles/month
Education

  • https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-lindsay-a1a811aa

    Let me make a wild guess, and this is a bit troubling in itself: He did put his signature to those 'letters'...but he didn't write them. He isn't there to do that. He's there to offer a private solution to the many woes of Ontario transit, especially Toronto's.

    Speaking of tech, this forum's on-page software is buggy as fug. I'll try and add more later.




 

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