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Urban4Lyfe

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The city will stop catering to cars when something less than 90% of the city doesn't live in car oriented suburbs.

There are thousands of voters in this city who want no investment into bike lanes at all and while they will probably never even use this road I guarantee if they hear bike lanes the next thing out of their mouths will be "waste of taxpayer dollars".
 

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Since we are on the topic of how badly CMLC, the Stampede, CSEC, and the city are at building anything, here is a link to new renders out of Ottawa for their new arena proposal. Holy shit it blows what we came up with out of the water. It is designed by Populous so there is no surprise it's head and shoulders above the junk HOK puts out. After seeing this design I'm so happy the Calgary arena fell apart. When the time comes to revive the arena, they better go back to the drawing board on it.
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=229534&page=307
Really like that Ottawa design. Can’t even tell it’s an arena.
 

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Do they own the streets as well?

Honestly, how did we get to a point where an unelected board of elderly corporate suits (who like to put on cowboy hats and play at being blue collar) control such a huge swath of the city? How have we continued to tolerate their control after decades and decades of doing nothing but building parking lots? Everything they touch is an absolute failure.
The answer is money of course.
 

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It's their land from 12th to the river, so probable some power I'm sure.
As I recall, the city holds title to all of the Stampede land and leases the portion of land, from roughly south of 14th ave to the Elbow, to the Stampede. The lands north of 14th, including Olympic Way, are also owned by the city.
 

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Like I don't get why this city always fails with these massive projects. Like even Ottawa can eventually pump out something good, while all our massive developments blow nowadays
I really wish people outside of the design profession (and armchair fans) would start to see the value that great design brings.

A good Arena & Public Realm design nets the owners significantly more money in the medium to long term than a cheap building would save them. Hire smart, educated, experienced people who are passionate about their communities, and with records of excellence. Listen to their advice. Sure your capital investment is higher, but (continuous) revenue generated would far outweigh that. Everyone would benefit so much more, it's just harder to quantify that in an excel formula so it gets overlooked.
 

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Interesting that the redesign of Stephen Ave stretches all the way to 11th Street SW
Really glad to see it. It def should go all the way, would be nice to see west of 3rd become part of the retail strip eventually
 

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Like I don't get why this city always fails with these massive projects. Like even Ottawa can eventually pump out something good, while all our massive developments blow nowadays
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Mission Bridge over the Elbow is getting a update! Noted they were doing boreholes into the soil under the pavement on the bridge (or so the engineer on site told me). I didn't realize road bridges still had soil beds under the pavement.

I wish the questions didn't have people rate "maintaining the current look of the bridge" without rating for "who cares about the old look, make it look good and tie in the new staircase to Elbow Island"

 

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The city will stop catering to cars when something less than 90% of the city doesn't live in car oriented suburbs.

There are thousands of voters in this city who want no investment into bike lanes at all and while they will probably never even use this road I guarantee if they hear bike lanes the next thing out of their mouths will be "waste of taxpayer dollars".
That's why its even more important to fight for alternative modes of transportation in these relatively low profile projects that don't impact many people and are not on the minds of the public. Also, so many urban design decisions are made by technocrats outside the realm of electoral politics. Its the road engineers who forced through wide turn radii, slip lanes, etc. The most effective way of promoting alternative transportation is to pressure the technocrats to revise their standard operating procedures and the default street design.
 

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The construction tender is out for another of the downtown office conversion projects .... 112 units at 909 5th Ave SW.

https://people-1st.ca/current-projects/
 

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