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How should Toronto connect the East and West arms of the planned waterfront transit with downtown?

  • Expand the existing Union loop

    Votes: 169 72.8%
  • Build a Western terminus

    Votes: 10 4.3%
  • Route service along Queen's Quay with pedestrian/cycle/bus connection to Union

    Votes: 23 9.9%
  • Connect using existing Queen's Quay/Union Loop and via King Street

    Votes: 15 6.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 15 6.5%

  • Total voters
    232

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I have no issue leaving the tower where it is as it helps for a southbound platform while keeping the reconstruction to a medium. One way or another, the tracks have to be lower to get under the embankment and that was to happen to the current underpass if tracks ran in mix traffic for it.

I do not support delaying both extension and its the same BS I have heard for 16 years from the city. Both needs to be done at the same time with the Ontario Line having very little impact at the loop area by then.

This project is 10 years late now and time to build it. Waterfront Toronto has already screw up the Portland lines by not building all the bridges at the same time that it will cost the close to 30% more to install them now if not more. Commissioner St bridge will be very costly to assemble and install it when the need is there for it like 2030 not 2040 plus. Both sections needs to arrive at the same time to speed up the process.
 

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This project is 10 years late now and time to build it. Waterfront Toronto has already screw up the Portland lines by not building all the bridges at the same time that it will cost the close to 30% more to install them now if not more. Commissioner St bridge will be very costly to assemble and install it when the need is there for it like 2030 not 2040 plus. Both sections needs to arrive at the same time to speed up the process.

Why is this WT's fault? The city/TTC failed to move forward on the line, much less come to a conclusion that it will be terminating at Polson in imaginable timeframe. Just because they wanted it now and needed another bridge doesn't mean it is anyone but their own fault. I mean, they're the ones wasting time on resetting this in the first place - and the world had moved on.

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What QQE, Cherry St and the Portland should have that I shot today on Eglinton.
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What QQE, Cherry St and the Portland should have that I shot today on Eglinton.

And Fleet; St. Clair and sections of Spadina too!

The pavement will come up for re-do on some of these in the next decade; we need to make it policy to un-do the past mistakes.
 

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And Fleet; St. Clair and sections of Spadina too!

The pavement will come up for re-do on some of these in the next decade; we need to make it policy to un-do the past mistakes.
TTC tracks from Dan Leckie Way to Bathurst St is due for replacement around 2023 and the plan was to rebuilt QQ to match the eastern section already built. TTC did not have the $15 million when the first section of QQ was rebuilt and why it doesn't match the new section.

During the reset study, it was recommended that Bathurst St be rebuilt and move the tracks to the west side of the street from QQ to just south of Fort York Blvd. At the same time, Fleet intersection be rebuilt and closing off access to it by traffic to allow for wider platforms and better turning for all direction for streetcars. An EA is require to do this. There is a call to fix the whole intersection for Lake Shore/Bathurst/Fleet and under city control.

Dirt is cheap as well grass compare to concrete

Parts of Spadina ROW was rebuilt around 2012-2014. St Clair ROW started in 2008 and completed around 2010. Lots of life yet considering TTC is looking at 20-25 year life cycle.
 
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TTC tracks from Dan Leckie Way to Bathurst St is due for replacement around 2023 and the plan was to rebuilt QQ to match the eastern section already built. TTC did not have the $15 million when the first section of QQ was rebuilt and why it doesn't match the new section.

During the reset study, it was recommended that Bathurst St be rebuilt and move the tracks to the west side of the street from QQ to just south of Fort York Blvd. At the same time, Fleet intersection be rebuilt and closing off access to it by traffic to allow for wider platforms and better turning for all direction for streetcars. An EA is require to do this. There is a call to fix the whole intersection for Lake Shore/Bathurst/Fleet and under city control.

Dirt is cheap as well grass compare to concrete

Parts of Spadina ROW was rebuilt around 2012-2014. St Clair ROW started in 2008 and completed around 2010. Lots of life yet considering TTC is looking at 20-25 year life cycle.
Bet the Toronto Transportation Department will continue to say NO to the use of grass on the streetcar right-of-way. The light rail right-of-way on Eglinton will have grass, but maybe because Metrolinx was able to override them.
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Bet the Toronto Transportation Department will continue to say NO to the use of grass on the streetcar right-of-way. The light rail right-of-way on Eglinton will have grass, but maybe because Metrolinx was able to override them.
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My guess is that because it's not actually accessible to the road unlike with the TTC streetcar tracks which are. They did say that all of the stops on the right of way will have concrete in them for emergency vehicles to be able to access the patforms
 

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My guess is that because it's not actually accessible to the road unlike with the TTC streetcar tracks which are. They did say that all of the stops on the right of way will have concrete in them for emergency vehicles to be able to access the patforms
QQW may have concrete road for the stations, but never seen an emergency vehicle use yet since 2014 when it went into service. Plan from day one to have grass, but EMS said no in the end.

Cannot do this on Eglinton as the platforms are open pits.

There is no real issue stopping the next phase having grass than tell the emergency vehicle use the road like you have being doing and sending a clear message to the car folks this ROW is not a road for you. Have said that, we will hear and see vehicles sunk in the ROW with grass and stopping TTC service.

Do the track work like Eglinton between the driveways with grass 100%.

Time the raise the fine for illegal using the ROW as well all the cost for removing vehicles and delaying service. Then the cost to repair the damage.
 

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TTC tracks from Dan Leckie Way to Bathurst St is due for replacement around 2023 and the plan was to rebuilt QQ to match the eastern section already built. TTC did not have the $15 million when the first section of QQ was rebuilt and why it doesn't match the new section.

During the reset study, it was recommended that Bathurst St be rebuilt and move the tracks to the west side of the street from QQ to just south of Fort York Blvd. At the same time, Fleet intersection be rebuilt and closing off access to it by traffic to allow for wider platforms and better turning for all direction for streetcars. An EA is require to do this. There is a call to fix the whole intersection for Lake Shore/Bathurst/Fleet and under city control.

Dirt is cheap as well grass compare to concrete

Parts of Spadina ROW was rebuilt around 2012-2014. St Clair ROW started in 2008 and completed around 2010. Lots of life yet considering TTC is looking at 20-25 year life cycle.

This is interesting. That Lakeshore/Bathurst intersection is overly confusing to people so this may help rectify some of the issues. In particular, preventing cars travelling south on Bathurst from turning right onto Lakeshore. Currently, the only thing preventing people from turning right are the signs which are either missed/ignored now. Whenever I am in the area, I notice cars always turning right there. By moving the streetcar tracks to the right side, it would definitely reduce people doing it.

And I love the grass in the streetcar lanes idea. I really wish it was on QQ now.
 

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Bet the Toronto Transportation Department will continue to say NO to the use of grass on the streetcar right-of-way. The light rail right-of-way on Eglinton will have grass, but maybe because Metrolinx was able to override them.
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What's the grass like after a month of high heat?
 

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What's the grass like after a month of high heat?

What is lawn dormancy?

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Summer brings with it hot and dry conditions, and you’ve probably seen some straw-like, brown lawns around your neighborhoods. You may be thinking that these lawns are dead but, in fact, they are in a state of dormancy, kind of like hibernation.

Summer dormancy is your lawn’s response to the stress caused by a lack of water and essential nutrients. Grass shuts down and turns brown in order to conserve these vital resources critical to the plant’s metabolism. Dormancy is a natural protection mechanism built-in to your lawn to defend it from unfavorable weather conditions.

As temperatures rise, it becomes more challenging to maintain the healthy, lush, green lawn you desire. Our last blog post provided some tips and tricks to homeowners on how to minimize drought damage to your lawn. If you’re still concerned about the state of your lawn, you’re not alone. We’ve put together some extra tips to follow to ensure your lawn will flourish when better weather prevails.
  • Watering: Typically, a lawn may require at least one inch of water per week. Drought tolerant grasses, like Manderley Less Water Sod, require up to half that amount to maintain green cover.
  • Mowing: Do not mow your lawn if it has gone dormant. To minimize stress, mow only as needed, early in the morning or late in the evening.
  • Fertilizing: Although an application of fertilizer will not bring a lawn out of dormancy, maintaining a regular fertilizing program will provide your lawn with all the essential nutrients it needs to recover. We recommend following our 3-Step Fertilizer Program to keep your grass healthy throughout its lifecycle.
Lawn maintenance during times of drought may feel like an uphill battle, but your grass will green up again when conditions improve. Make sure to follow us on social media to see other lawn care tips and tricks to help keep your lawn its greenest!
 

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