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yeah I wasn't sure what that meant either, so I just didn't moved on but now that you asked I'm interested to see the response.
Probably the worn out "PoLiCe bAd." But it's also true we should work on quality of policing, not just quantity.
 
What do you mean by that?
Do you want Toronto to become like US cities where crime is so rampant that stores are closing? This is not the city I want to live in. We need to stop with this craziness and start doing something about it before it's too late.
...do you really want me to go there? Because none of you are going to like what I have to say about that. And I really don't feel like getting tarred and feathered first thing this morning.

That said, a police detective that was looking into an unrelated matter for me told me that the lack of police presence is due to shortage of staff because of a lack of interest in people joining the forces on recruitment side. Which suggests no matter how pro-police or law and order our municipal government will be, this will always going be a problem here. And for what that's worth.

...and that's all I am going to say on the matter. Thnkx for your time!
 
...do you really want me to go there? Because none of you are going to like what I have to say about that. And I really don't feel like getting tarred and feathered first thing this morning.

That said, a police detective that was looking into an unrelated matter for me told me that the lack of police presence is due to shortage of staff because of a lack of interest in people joining the forces on recruitment side. Which suggests no matter how pro-police or law and order our municipal government will be, this will always going be a problem here. And for what that's worth.

...and that's all I am going to say on the matter. Thnkx for your time!

Just for the record, you were the one that left your comment at "/ugh", so I'm not sure what kind of responses you were expecting.
 
Just for the record, you were the one that left your comment at "/ugh", so I'm not sure what kind of responses you were expecting.
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You have my answer. Now please drop it. Thnkx!
 
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The granite is a nice material but like everything modern in this dreary city, it's grey and barely stands out from the surrounding concrete. It's probably a big waste to trash all that stone but using a warmer colour would be an instant improvement; add some seating and you're getting close.

Pioneer Courthouse Square in Portland and Fed Square in Melbourne come to mind as a couple of ideas to emulate. Warm, red tones used for the paving materials and the use of elevation creating an amphitheatre effect, as well as large stairs that serve as seating.

From there I'd ring the square with hardy, fast growing trees and look at creating a more intentional, grander water feature that really impresses. The Crown Fountain in Chicago comes to mind, although probably a bit too large/ambitious for this location. Surely we can find some middle ground though.
I hear you on the grey and concrete vibe – it can feel a bit monotonous. Bringing in some warmer tones would definitely add a welcoming touch. I love the idea of taking inspiration from places like Pioneer Courthouse Square and Fed Square; those warm, red tones and the amphitheater-style layout sound like they’d bring a whole new vibe to the area.
 
I hear you on the grey and concrete vibe – it can feel a bit monotonous. Bringing in some warmer tones would definitely add a welcoming touch. I love the idea of taking inspiration from places like Pioneer Courthouse Square and Fed Square; those warm, red tones and the amphitheater-style layout sound like they’d bring a whole new vibe to the area.
With that all said...a curious question has made me wonder about the plight of this Square most of us here seem to loath. That is, Is there any chance that The City will ever look to restructuring/redeveloping this into something more desirable? Or this place pretty much a done deal for the ages here?
 

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