[Steve X]

Why is the LRT now blue? First they were red, then green and now the photo posted above shows blue. Are we heading back to red?

That's for Edmonton's Valley Line LRT

 

[TheTigerMaster]

Their blue because ION owns the LRVs and the Eglinton Line.

I'm curious about how Crostown East and West will change the Crosstown ownership structure here in Toronto. Ontario was supposed to own the whole line, but now that the province isn't funding the extensions, the City should be the owners of Crosstown East and West. This will have implications for the contract for line maintenance and operations.

 

[44 North]

Their blue because ION owns the LRVs and the Eglinton Line.

I'm curious about how Crostown East and West will change the Crosstown ownership structure here in Toronto. Ontario was supposed to own the whole line, but now that the province isn't funding the extensions, the City should be the owners of Crosstown East and West. This will have implications for the contract for line maintenance and operations.

The image above is using ETS's current colour scheme, which is blue, grey, white. Ion's is a much lighter shade of blue, but similar to ETS in that it has white as well.

Does anyone know if Mississauga or Hamilton have indicated how they want their colour schemes to look? Or will it be the standard off-green that Mlinx has teased us with? I want to make a Flexity Freedom collage of all the Canadian transit systems that will be using these vehicles.

 

[Megaton327]

Their blue because ION owns the LRVs and the Eglinton Line.

I'm curious about how Crostown East and West will change the Crosstown ownership structure here in Toronto. Ontario was supposed to own the whole line, but now that the province isn't funding the extensions, the City should be the owners of Crosstown East and West. This will have implications for the contract for line maintenance and operations.

ION does not own the Eglinton line. You may be confused, ION is the brand name for Grand River Transit's LRT in the Waterloo region. Metrolinx owns the LRVs and the Eglinton Line, Toronto's LRVs will be coloured either green or traditional TTC red (I don't recall which, pretty sure it's green), not both.

 

[nfitz]

I meant ION owns the Warerloo LRVs as that's why they're blue.

That picture isn't of one of the 30-metre long 5-module Flexitys for Waterloo thought.

That's one of the 40-metre long 7-module Flexitys for Edmonton.

Makes you wonder why they simply didn't make 45-metre long Flexitys for the Eglinton line.

 

[Palma]

Their blue because ION owns the LRVs and the Eglinton Line.

I'm curious about how Crostown East and West will change the Crosstown ownership structure here in Toronto. Ontario was supposed to own the whole line, but now that the province isn't funding the extensions, the City should be the owners of Crosstown East and West. This will have implications for the contract for line maintenance and operations.

thats a real, interesting question. Now all we need is an answer

 

[TheTigerMaster]

thats a real, interesting question. Now all we need is an answer

We'll see. I suspect how this is to be handled would have already been outlined in the Memorandum of Understanding between the City and Province to build the ECLRT.

 

[dowlingm]

Their blue because ION owns the LRVs and the Eglinton Line.

I'm curious about how Crostown East and West will change the Crosstown ownership structure here in Toronto. Ontario was supposed to own the whole line, but now that the province isn't funding the extensions, the City should be the owners of Crosstown East and West. This will have implications for the contract for line maintenance and operations.

The simplest would be for Toronto to simply pay a fixed grant to the Province (any overruns their problem), like an opposite Spadina line. But then they don't have an asset on their books. They could buy out the Finch West line from Metrolinx to shuffle money around and have an asset, but since the signalling control centres of Crosstown and Finch are apparently going to be linked then it makes sense to have a single owner - and thus the same with Crosstown.

PS - I think you meant Metrolinx there, not "ION"

 

[drum118]

ION does not own the Eglinton line. You may be confused, ION is the brand name for Grand River Transit's LRT in the Waterloo region. Metrolinx owns the LRVs and the Eglinton Line, Toronto's LRVs will be coloured either green or traditional TTC red (I don't recall which, pretty sure it's green), not both.

Metrolinx owns the extension as they are under the Big Move and were part of Transit City Plan, except for the subway.

These lines and extensions were defer due to lack of funding years ago and before Ford came to office.

They were fully funded by the province.

All Metrolinx cars will be green regardless what city they are in if they are paying for them.

 

[salsa]

Properties are undergoing demolition in the vicinity of Keele station (sorry, Keelesdale).

 

[hawc]

I wonder how much property values are going to increase as a DIRECT result of this line? Like if you're one or two blocks either side of Eglinton and you're sitting in a 2M house, will your house now be worth 2.5M?

 

[Duck]

That picture isn't of one of the 30-metre long 5-module Flexitys for Waterloo thought.

That's one of the 40-metre long 7-module Flexitys for Edmonton.

Makes you wonder why they simply didn't make 45-metre long Flexitys for the Eglinton line.

....why 45 metres? That would suggest 8 modules, an even number, which isn't possible.

 

[Steve X]

....why 45 metres? That would suggest 8 modules, an even number, which isn't possible.

Belgium's Flexity trams with 7 modules are 43.4m long. I don't see why it can't be 45m long. The Ottawa LRVs are 49m long and they have 4 modules!

 

[dowlingm]

What will the Capcity be of the trains on the Ec?
It's really confusing how they are using Flexity Freedoms which are similar to the Streetcars in terms of size, will they always be paired in sets of two? Whoever brought up the Edmonton trains brings up a great point.

What will the seating arrangement look like? Similar to the new streetcar? Or will the seats face inwards to free up standing room more like a subway

The Crosstown cars will be 2.65 cm, so 11 cm wider than the downtown cars. I imagine the seating will be somewhat similar since there is the same issue with the wheelset housing coming above low floor level.

 

[Duck]

Belgium's Flexity trams with 7 modules are 43.4m long. I don't see why it can't be 45m long. The Ottawa LRVs are 49m long and they have 4 modules!

The way his post was worded it looked like he was extrapolating forward that he wanted one more module (7+1) which, with the suspended modules and fixed bogies of FLEXITY, isn't possible from a technical standpoint. I know there are many, many different configurations from different manufacturers.

The Ottawa Alstom trains are articulated asymmetrically, which I hate (one car has 2 bogies, the rest have 1 and are trailered)