denfromoakvillemilton
Senior Member
You're right.No, that would be a colossal waste of money.
But a colassal waste of money and peace of mind... or saving money and misery??
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You're right.No, that would be a colossal waste of money.
it would be all grade separated for relatively cheap... I understand why sheppard, finch are surface but eglinton could easily have been grade separated for not that much extra.I love that solution. And screw UP! Eglinton West should have been built first but Toronto Planning!!
Who exactly is making a stink? Half of Scarborough residents want the LRT. I don't think it's as simple as spending $3 billion and everyone in Scarborough will be happy.You're right.
But a colassal waste of money and peace of mind... or saving money and misery??
This was not an actual solution since the RT corridor could not have a subway run on its turns which is why we are in this subway inflating mess that we are in now.
My solution then and is now is this... I get that I am a lone wolf on it though and it may have some problems which I am sure could be over come. I also am willing to say goodbye to UP express which I am sure some will hate.
I wouldn't have a problem with this map if the DRL went up to eglinton in the first phase but if not there would still need to be some sort of connection from kennedy to STC (the exact part which is inflating like a NYC thanksgiving day balloon)Have you ever thought about using the CP corridor to get the Crosstown up to the Ellesmere elevated section (in place of using the disjointed Eglinton East->Stouffville corridor alignment)? A couple benefits: 1) this would free-up the Stouffville corridor for double/triple track, 2) it would IMO provide a more balanced distribution of subway lines across the east half of the city (with the line filling the gap on a 'diagonal' between the current Line 2 and future DRL/Don Mills subway). And on a more basic level it would make a good mirror image for your western portion.
I made this map almost two years ago, but I think about it from time to time as having a lot of merit. Basically we'd sacrifice two tram-style LRT lines (Crosstown b/n Laird-Kennedy, and the SELRT) but in the process create a 100% subway/metro line to SCC.
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But a colassal waste of money and peace of mind... or saving money and misery??
I think they just wanted a show piece for the Pan Am games... just ridiculous. And that brings in Malvern which is important. If we had no leslie stop(there shouldn't be one, then this is moot.it would be all grade separated for relatively cheap... I understand why sheppard, finch are surface but eglinton could easily have been grade separated for not that much extra.
Who exactly is making a stink? Half of Scarborough residents want the LRT. I don't think it's as simple as spending $3 billion and everyone in Scarborough will be happy.
But here's the thing: enough are angry. And the people who want LRT never seem to be around when these uproars happen. Build the sheppard and scarborough subways, and then build the Eglinton East LRT. Just eat it and move on. We have a DRL to build and GO to expand.If it's going to be a huge waste of money, city council needs to win a substantial transit fund out of the residents.
It won't do any good to splurge on this item with no ability to actually fund the pieces the city does need. The province is starting to demand Toronto kick in funding too if it's going to keep asking for it and the feds don't solo-pay for anything.
I don't think we should base our transit planning on who is the angriest...But here's the thing: enough are angry. And the people who want LRT never seem to be around when these uproars happen. Build the sheppard and scarborough subways, and then build the Eglinton East LRT. Just eat it and move on. We have a DRL to build and GO to expand.
We have a DRL to build and GO to expand.
Haha word for word sounds like something that could have been straight from the pen of Keithz. Maybe he's a political operative? All the Tory boosterism of ScamTrack and other Tory pet projects would make sense.
I've been saying for over 4 years that those who want to bring back the LRT with transfer are responsible for much of the mess we are in. The pro rapid transit people made several attempts to compromise (connected SRT-Eg., subway along a number of routes), but the LRT promoters refused to budge 1 inch.
But Scarborough will never stop making a stink until we give them a subway. We should just cave, build both subways and move on.
But here's the thing: enough are angry. And the people who want LRT never seem to be around when these uproars happen. Build the sheppard and scarborough subways, and then build the Eglinton East LRT. Just eat it and move on. We have a DRL to build and GO to expand.