Student99
Active Member
oh my God getting in a roundabout with the amount of truck traffic there would be the scariest of nightmares lol
I really dislike their plan too
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I really dislike their plan too
nfitz
Superstar
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Presumably such a plan would be more than a straight line - presumably lining up with the Bradford bypass.
I don't know why we aren't discussing this in the fantasy map section - or at least the 413 thread - https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/roads-gta-west-corridor—highway-413—guelph-to-400.3011/
whydidimakethis
Active Member
The whole entire thing is designed around future development and not the actual movement of traffic. I have a suspicion the 413 is designed to prioritize this too.
kamira51
Active Member
MTO should really be investing in tighter highway corridors(the popular example is the 115/35 around Orono). I agree that recently built highways(looking at you 407E)are overbuilt, and extremely wide.
whydidimakethis
Active Member
The 401/412 interchange takes up more than triple the space of a trumpet. Even crazier comparison is if you zoom out:
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Woodbridge_Heights
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I wonder how much of a constraint the rail corridor was in the 412 build. Excellent point regardless.
I'd bet the 418 build is even more massive
DirectionNorth
Active Member
The 418 interchange is actually slightly smaller.
Both 412 interchanges are massive, though.
And some of the parclos are quite awful as well.
Woodbridge_Heights
Senior Member
What's 0.2 sq km among friends ... Lol . ..
whydidimakethis
Active Member
Anyone know what the extra space under the 400/Steeles overpass is for? Are there/ were there ever plans to widen Steeles to 6 lanes through this stretch?
EnviroTO
Senior Member
There were plans for that the section to Jane is completed 3 each direction plus a median, and this underpass is sized for that as well as the CP rail corridor bridge.
Undead
Senior Member
I emailed Google about it and felt too pleased with myself when it popped onto the map the next day
But it's still not showing the traffic flow and satellite imagery will likely remain out of date for a few years.
anb
Active Member
I remember when the 407 extension never got the update until months later. The fact that the 427 extension was locked and ready for the update the very next day shows that they were also tired of waiting until it finally opened as wellI emailed Google about it and felt too pleased with myself when it popped onto the map the next day
But it's still not showing the traffic flow and satellite imagery will likely remain out of date for a few years.
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kamira51
Active Member
Adding to our conversation about tighter highway corridors, I was driving north on the 410 Extension and noticed how narrow the corridor was constructed. It's actually quite nice how condensed they built it. MTO should really look into making that the standard design from now on, as I would assume it would make highway projects alot cheaper since it would need less land acqusitions and cheaper bridge work.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
The 410 north portion has a ROW of 70 metres for example, compared to the 400 extension with a ROW of 110m.
The 407E has a ~180m ROW to accomodate the future Transitway (!)
The 407E has a ~180m ROW to accomodate the future Transitway (!)
whydidimakethis
Active Member
The 413 also has a "transitway" so I'd imagine the ROW would be similar to 407E (which would be catastrophic for the area)
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