MacLac
Senior Member
How can this be? This was the little baby that was nurtured and fed by the newly assembled planning and permit dept to expedite the permit process and work closely with developers to see that their dreams came true!
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Clearshades
Senior Member
They're not God!
skiis
New Member
I heard that EllisDon defaulted on this project. There are a few projects across Canada which have had unexpected GC departures this year but this is especially odd considering they snatched the job from Clark to begin with. Over promise and under deliver?
Not a good outcome for EllisDon but I hope this project can still proceed.
Not a good outcome for EllisDon but I hope this project can still proceed.
Airboy
Senior Member
Heard there was a big blood letting a few weeks back at ED locally.
northlands
Senior Member
I would assume they had some degree of financial investment in PSG… and who knows how much they have into their Prairie Link pipedream. Some not so great decision making from the top down when you include this project bungling as well.
Frankly, I haven’t had a lot of good professional experiences with EllisDon (including on this project) but that aside it sucks seeing anyone locally lose their jobs.
Airboy
Senior Member
Never had good dealings with the firm either and yet the guys I worked with on projects were decent to deal with. But then I could say the same thing about PCL.
Currently working with Bird, Graham, Clark and JenCol on projects. Getting along good with all of them.
Currently working with Bird, Graham, Clark and JenCol on projects. Getting along good with all of them.
Guy 1
Active Member
A slightly disingenuous comment - I'm sure they were in part responsible for the failure of the contract, but there's not a chance in hell that a contractor of that size would genuinely default on a project like this. Perhaps that's the spin the developer will put on it, but I can't imagine it's factual.
skiis
New Member
I'm just sharing what I've heard, I don't know enough to make judgement. Take it as a rumor, there are always two sides to a story.
Looking at this from a distance though construction was proceeding and stopped pretty much immediately after EllisDon took over. We can only speculate on why but it seems mistakes were made.
Clearshades
Senior Member
Clark is not small either.
Guy 1
Active Member
Indeed. Again, no doubt there is likely blame on both sides for the failure (both in the ellisdon and clark scenarios), but I would be highly suspicious as to the source of any rumour that absolves this developer of blame - especially given that they've gone through two large GCs and have nothing to show for it but a hole in the ground.
Anyway, I hope they can recover and find a gc that will work - this is an important project and we don't need another vacant hole in the ground!
Anyway, I hope they can recover and find a gc that will work - this is an important project and we don't need another vacant hole in the ground!
cmd uw
Active Member
After being in this business for almost 20-years I can tell you that any project that recycles through a general contractor (once is bad enough nevermind twice) is NOT a good sign. There's obviously a lot more to this. I remain hopeful but I'm growing more skeptical each day.
thommyjo
Senior Member
Is it possible this site could be sold to a new developer? I just can’t imagine this isn’t one of the most attractive lots in the core right now to develop. This node of 120st-124st is booming. LRT nearby soon.
TAS
Senior Member
Cidex to the rescue again?
cmd uw
Active Member
It's happened before....Pagnotta bought the site in Windsor Park back in 2020 or so and then Cidex bought out the BCM site.
Romanov
Active Member
Cantiro bought the West Block Glenora site as well I think.