Allandale25 said:
On track for opening in 2024 per this.

www.mississauga.com

$4.6B Mississauga and Brampton LRT still ‘on track’ for 2024 opening target amid Eglinton Crosstown delay

While other major light rail transit projects are seeing delays in Ontario, Metrolinx says the LRT planned for Mississauga and Brampton will still be running in 2024.
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If the former Hurontario LRT within Mississauga will be named "Hazel McCallion LRT", shouldn't the LRT within the borders of Brampton be named the "Patrick Brown LRT" (if it built into "downtown Brampton")? :eek::p:oops:

Peel Regional Chair Nando Iannicca might have been considered, but no one knows who he is.
 
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Allandale25 said:
On track for opening in 2024 per this.

www.mississauga.com

$4.6B Mississauga and Brampton LRT still ‘on track’ for 2024 opening target amid Eglinton Crosstown delay

While other major light rail transit projects are seeing delays in Ontario, Metrolinx says the LRT planned for Mississauga and Brampton will still be running in 2024.
www.mississauga.com www.mississauga.com
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4.6B? Was not this supposed to cost 1.2? I know there are cost overruns and inflation etc. but that initial number has turned out to be completely useless.
 
Paving underway.
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khaldoon said:
4.6B? Was not this supposed to cost 1.2? I know there are cost overruns and inflation etc. but that initial number has turned out to be completely useless.
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Difference is capital cost vs total 20-30 year cost inclusive of financing, operating, maintenance cost. It's kind of a misleading way to quote transit project costs, as much of that cost won't be borne for decades and is much less in present value terms (assuming the $5.6B is not discounted). It seems like a rather bizarro financial measure to me.

From the Globe and Mail.
The government just okayed the similar Hurontario light-rail transit line in Mississauga, awarding a contract in October to a consortium to design, build, operate and maintain it, with a $4.6-billion price tag over its 30-year life. (Another $1-billion in maintenance and operating costs is to be covered by Mississauga, bringing the total cost to $5.6-billion.) The project was originally described as having $1.2-billion in base capital costs.
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The benefits case projects annual ridership of around 30m on the line. Over 30 years, that implies a cost per ride of ~$6, or likely in the range of $0.30-$0.60 per passenger km. Ontario Line is more like $4/ride. I find it hard to argue from a dollars and cents perspective that transit investment is cost effective. Maybe it would help if we had congestion road pricing.

www.metrolinx.com

About the 2041 Regional Transportation Plan

2041 Regional Transportation Plan
www.metrolinx.com
 
afransen said:
Difference is capital cost vs total 20-30 year cost inclusive of financing, operating, maintenance cost. It's kind of a misleading way to quote transit project costs, as much of that cost won't be borne for decades and is much less in present value terms (assuming the $5.6B is not discounted). It seems like a rather bizarro financial measure to me.

From the Globe and Mail.


The benefits case projects annual ridership of around 30m on the line. Over 30 years, that implies a cost per ride of ~$6, or likely in the range of $0.30-$0.60 per passenger km. Ontario Line is more like $4/ride. I find it hard to argue from a dollars and cents perspective that transit investment is cost effective. Maybe it would help if we had congestion road pricing.

www.metrolinx.com

About the 2041 Regional Transportation Plan

2041 Regional Transportation Plan
www.metrolinx.com
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Thanks. That makes a bit more sense. On the other hand, trying to estimate costs even 10 years down the road, never mind 30 years, is foolish though I supppse that they need to come with some preliminary numbers.
 
W. K. Lis said:
If the former Hurontario LRT within Mississauga will be named "Hazel McCallion LRT", shouldn't the LRT within the borders of Brampton be named the "Patrick Brown LRT" (if it built into "downtown Brampton")? :eek::p:oops:
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Ain't nobody gonna call this thing the "Hazel McCallion LRT" except maybe the Ford family, who are inexplicably obsessed with her and who will also never ride it.

Hazel will call it the "me LRT", I guess.
 
Tim MacDonald said:
So the crews are 1 for 2. QEW open but Hurontario is not.
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Going to take months to rebuild Hurontario itself to line up with the new tunnel that will have a sidewalk as well the rebuilt ramps to/from the QEW..

Still have to build the barrier wall and railings at each end of the new tunnel on for the QEW as well retaining walls.

Haven't seen anything regarding having a sidewalk on the west side where there has been non for decades and hope there is one, once finish. The current tunnel will be close by the summer, if not sooner.

Looking at the photo above, they have to add an extension to the box so the south end lines up with the current south end and that will take about 2 months, unless that on ramp will be very close to the end of the new box.

To hard to get shot yesterday on my way into Toronto and will be a few days before I get back down to the area this week.
 
drum118 said:
Haven't seen anything regarding having a sidewalk on the west side where there has been non for decades and hope there is one, once finish. The current tunnel will be close by the summer, if not
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Just look above your post. The plan was posted this morning and shows a sidewalk on both sides.
 
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