innsertnamehere said:
Interesting to see that roughly 50% of the parking spaces will only fit sedans. The auto market is quickly moving to SUVs so that may be a problem in a few years.
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Half of the visitor parking spots in my building are labeled “small cars only” but that has never stopped anybody from leaving their giant pickup truck there.
 
EBT said:
What retailer will now occupy the ground floor custom-designed for Apple? The only retailer that I can think of occupying the ground floor is Tesla. Let's hope this happens!
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Tesla would be a terrible tenant, IMO. The appeal of Apple was that it would have been a big, lively, store, one that might have actually lived up to Mizrahi's dreams of this being an iconic location. A Tesla showroom would cater to such a smaller crowd, and the intersection is dead as it is with the loss of Nordstrom Rack and The Bay. After all this time you really just want to fill this space with cars and the odd person looking at them?
 
T.E.C.II said:
Tesla would be a terrible tenant, IMO. The appeal of Apple was that it would have been a big, lively, store, one that might have actually lived up to Mizrahi's dreams of this being an iconic location. A Tesla showroom would cater to such a smaller crowd, and the intersection is dead as it is with the loss of Nordstrom Rack and The Bay. After all this time you really just want to fill this space with cars and the odd person looking at them?
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Totally agree. At this point they may need to demise the space as there are very few world class or even regional tenants able to absorb this size/rental cost. Maybe they can turn it into a 30K SF vaccination location for the 13th booster.
 
EBT said:
I just finished reading the front-page story on the site tour and this part jumped out at me:

"Mizrahi walked us through the ground floor retail space, outlining a number of highly specific and complex structural components that were designed multiple years ago and installed specifically at the request of the retailer who will no longer be occupying the space"

So, it looks like Apple will not be the anchor tenant which is sad on many levels. There is no doubt that the requirement by Apple to have a column-free high-ceiling "ICONIC" retail space at the corner of Yonge and Bloor resulted in the extremely costly design that massively increased the cost of construction and compromised the attractiveness of the residential portion of the tower by requiring owners of condo's costing upwards of $20 million to take an extra elevator ride up to a sky lobby before reaching their condo. I don't believe that the Penthouse has its own elevator. And now we learn that Apple has abandoned the project!

If not for the requirements of Apple this tower would have been topped out years ago! What retailer will now occupy the ground floor custom-designed for Apple? The only retailer that I can think of occupying the ground floor is Tesla. Let's hope this happens!

Overall, I was very glad to see that the project is proceeding full steam ahead and that Mizrahi is still involved. Sam has worked so hard to bring this project to its current state of completion and I hope he can reap the rewards when this tower tops out!
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I'm no expert by any means, but, do they not design taller buildings using a split elevator system to help with the stack effect?
 
innsertnamehere said:
Interesting to see that roughly 50% of the parking spaces will only fit sedans. The auto market is quickly moving to SUVs so that may be a problem in a few years.
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Any idea how the valet could handle a large number of tenants wanting their car to go to work and when they all return from work? I can see that being a nightmare.
 
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UtakataNoAnnex said:
...it's pretty silly that Apple dropped this retail space, IMO. Impatience rarely equates to smart choices.
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I don't know why they ever wanted to be at that corner anyway?

Yonge and Bloor is a pretty trashy intersection. Nearly as bad as Yonge & Dundas.

It's always been 'The Center of Toronto' but only in name or geography. There's certainly nothing desirable about it. Other than maybe that's where two TTC lines intersect.

There are much nicer intersections in Toronto to locate a flagship store for the biggest brand in the world. Heck even Bay and Bloor would be nicer.
 
On the contrary - I expect Apple was being enormously patient with the process - that patience simply ran out around the same time as their confidence in Mizrahi and co. began to unravel. I sure can't blame Fruitco for backing out after years of slipped deadlines and back-channel chatter about shaky finances. Apple's in the game for the money after all, not idle speculation over one possible location for one of their dozens of flagship stores.

Still, it will be interesting to see who eventually takes on that cavernous ground floor space; I can't imagine who it will be.
 
Lenser said:
On the contrary - I expect Apple was being enormously patient with the process - that patience simply ran out around the same time as their confidence in Mizrahi and co. began to unravel. I sure can't blame Fruitco for backing out after years of slipped deadlines and back-channel chatter about shaky finances. Apple's in the game for the money after all, not idle speculation over one possible location for one of their dozens of flagship stores.

Still, it will be interesting to see who eventually takes on that cavernous ground floor space; I can't imagine who it will be.
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I agree but if we assume that they are still looking at building a flagship store in Toronto, what other site at the same state of readiness and suitability can be found?
 
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