Some info here - https://www.bdp.com/ca/projects/126...source=linkedin-quadrangle&utm_content=people

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Love the architecture, but future residents are going to be in for quite the surprise re: the plaza next door. Spent an ungodly amount of time waiting for a diverted 504 there last week, and it felt about half of the people there should have a spot for them in CAMH. Guess that's assumed with Parkdale tho so who knows.
 
jmi22 said:
Love the architecture, but future residents are going to be in for quite the surprise re: the plaza next door. Spent an ungodly amount of time waiting for a diverted 504 there last week, and it felt about half of the people there should have a spot for them in CAMH. Guess that's assumed with Parkdale tho so who knows.
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Whatever! I lived at King/Shaw for 7 years and never had a problem outside of what one would experience anywhere in the central city. A much greater magnet were the injection sites although they seem to be greatly reduced, thankfully.
 
rdaner said:
Whatever! I lived at King/Shaw for 7 years and never had a problem outside of what one would experience anywhere in the central city. A much greater magnet were the injection sites although they seem to be greatly reduced, thankfully.
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So you lived....not near the area in discussion....a significant number of years ago.....

Struggling to see the relevance of your comment to the discussion at hand.
 
jmi22 said:
So you lived....not near the area in discussion....a significant number of years ago.....

Struggling to see the relevance of your comment to the discussion at hand.
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I'm struggling to see your comment being relevant, aside from being a perfect example of how condo projects can bring an influx of new residents who have no sense of the existing neighbourhood - the literal criticism of gentrification
 
dob467 said:
I'm struggling to see your comment being relevant, aside from being a perfect example of how condo projects can bring an influx of new residents who have no sense of the existing neighbourhood - the literal criticism of gentrification
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I guess you could say I represented an "influx of new residents" when my Mom popped me out at St. Joes a few decades ago, but believe it or not no, not everyone who is less than enthusiastic about a public space being consumed by the smoking of crack and fentanyl is some foreboding "other" who couldn't possibly be from the same place as you.
 
jmi22 said:
I guess you could say I represented an "influx of new residents" when my Mom popped me out at St. Joes a few decades ago, but believe it or not no, not everyone who is less than enthusiastic about a public space being consumed by the smoking of crack and fentanyl is some foreboding "other" who couldn't possibly be from the same place as you.
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LOL, case and point. I've been to St Joe's too, my dad spent some of his final days there. Though not sure what the point of that comment is either.

I like the architecture of this building as well. I just hope the folks who move in don't have these knee jerk attitudes about the existing residents and services in the community. Here's hoping we continue with thoughtful discussion on this forum. I'll grab a copy of the Sun if I just want to read their comments section.
 
dob467 said:
LOL, case and point. I've been to St Joe's too, my dad spent some of his final days there. Though not sure what the point of that comment is either.

I like the architecture of this building as well. I just hope the folks who move in don't have these knee jerk attitudes about the existing residents and services in the community. Here's hoping we continue with thoughtful discussion on this forum. I'll grab a copy of the Sun if I just want to read their comments section.
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I hope you one day grow to be a person capable of undertaking serious discussions and understanding the arguments utilized within them, and progress past childish ad hominem attacks.
 
We're in a forum discussing a new building proposed in a neighbourhood where you describe the residents as "it felt about half of the people there should have a spot for them in CAMH" or "consumed by the smoking of crack and fentanyl." Not seeing how you were engaging in a good faith discussion here. But sure I'll do better at further understanding your nuanced arguments.

Anyway, the building looks good. Here's hoping the residents who move in are aware of the existing community in Parkdale and the folks who'll be your neighbours - an attitude that's thankfully shared by most members I've seen at Urban Toronto over the years.
 
dob467 said:
We're in a forum discussing a new building proposed in a neighbourhood where you describe the residents as "it felt about half of the people there should have a spot for them in CAMH" or "consumed by the smoking of crack and fentanyl." Not seeing how you were engaging in a good faith discussion here. But sure I'll do better at further understanding your
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Is good faith discussion defined by a refusal to address issues directly? Just because you wish an issue would not be highlighted, and the fact I do so grates with your worldview, does not render an opinion “bad faith”. Your inability to express a counter argument except by making baseless character attacks and alleging me to be some external - and thus invalid - “gentrifier” is in fact the definition of a bad faith argument.

dob467 said:
Here's hoping the residents who move in are aware of the existing community in Parkdale and the folks who'll be your neighbours - an attitude that's thankfully shared by most members I've seen at Urban Toronto over the years.
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If only I had addressed this nuance in my original post, perhaps saying “Guess that's assumed with Parkdale tho so who knows.” And no, I did not claim half of Parkdale smokes crack or belongs in CAMH, I very clearly was referring to individuals in the Parkdale Amphitheatre and the adjacent 504 stop. Stop baselessly lying.

Your genuine in-capability to understand ideas other than your own are a drag on the ability of the forum to host honest and critical discussions. Best of luck to you.
 
My bad, I should have realized your comments were intended to start a discussion about the intersection of poverty, mental health and addiction and how cities experiencing increased density and growth can balance new condo developments and existing community services from being displaced. I assume that honest and critical analysis was forthcoming in your next comment...

Speaking of which, there's lots of good projects happening in Parkdale, many of which are being discussed in various forums on Urban Toronto. I'm glad this online community exists and I'm always happy to engage in healthy discussions about developments across the city with folks who actually have something to contribute beyond what they saw one day waiting for the streetcar to arrive.
 
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