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Bear in mind that hockey is almost a religion here in Canada, whereas hockey can barely keep up with football, basketball and college sports in the Great Satan. The Orange Idiot's tariffs and 51st State rhetoric isn't helping.
 
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A summary table of my personal recording of events at Rogers in 2025. I've grouped into: (1) Oilers games/viewing parties, (2) Oil Kings games, (3) concerts, and (4) other (e.g. CFR, Cirque du Solei, etc.). 161 total event days in 2025.

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I averaged 18k attendance per Oiler game, 6k for Oil Kings, 12k for concerts and 10k for other events and calculated a total of 2.022 million people coming downtown for an event at Rogers in 2025.
 
JNO1 said:
A summary table of my personal recording of events at Rogers in 2025. I've grouped into: (1) Oilers games/viewing parties, (2) Oil Kings games, (3) concerts, and (4) other (e.g. CFR, Cirque du Solei, etc.). 161 total event days in 2025.

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I averaged 18k attendance per Oiler game, 6k for Oil Kings, 12k for concerts and 10k for other events and calculated a total of 2.022 million people coming downtown for an event at Rogers in 2025.
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While your math is likely correct, it does need to be noted that that’s not 2.02 million discrete visitors.

As an example, of those 2.02 million, 1,116,000 people are there for the Oilers games but that’s not 1,116,000 unique individuals. My guess is that total is predominantly the same 12-15,000 people attending multiple games throughout the course of the season.

For comparison, approximately 13,000 people live downtown but no one says people living downtown generate 4,745,000 visits.

Likewise, approximately 70,000 people work downtown but no one says people working downtown generate 15,400,000 visits.

If they did however, imagine what downtown would look like if the city spent 2.35 times what they spend supporting Ice District on supporting residents or 7.2 times what they spend supporting Ice District on supporting downtown workers.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not being a Negative Nellie here. I was a strong and vocal advocate of a downtown arena and was involved in designing one for EIG before Katz bought the team but Ice District is still only one piece of our downtown.
 
kcantor said:
While your math is likely correct, it does need to be noted that that’s not 2.02 million discrete visitors.

As an example, of those 2.02 million, 1,116,000 people are there for the Oilers games but that’s not 1,116,000 unique individuals. My guess is that total is predominantly the same 12-15,000 people attending multiple games throughout the course of the season.

For comparison, approximately 13,000 people live downtown but no one says people living downtown generate 4,745,000 visits.

Likewise, approximately 70,000 people work downtown but no one says people working downtown generate 15,400,000 visits.

If they did however, imagine what downtown would look like if the city spent 2.35 times what they spend supporting Ice District on supporting residents or 7.2 times what they spend supporting Ice District on supporting downtown workers.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not being a Negative Nellie here. I was a strong and vocal advocate of a downtown arena and was involved in designing one for EIG before Katz bought the team but Ice District is still only one piece of our downtown.
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I have a more positive view of the arena, but at least so far, while it has helped sustain some restaurants and bars in the area, Ice District has not revitalized downtown as hoped.

Some of this was due to unexpected factors beyond our control, such as COVID and WFH, but we can't just rely on Rogers and entertainment for a vibrant downtown.

There are IMO, several other important parts to revitalizing downtown: public safety, attracting more decent or unique retail, attracting more business offices and attracting more residential.

They are the like legs of a chair, so if we only focus only on one or two, it will not work properly. We have to work on all of these together.
 
Gronk! said:
Clearly we need to attract more concerts at Rogers Place during the summer.
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True and this is with Edmonton's free reign over concerts coming to Alberta for the most part given the Saddledome's building constraints. Once Calgary's new arena comes online, it's going to get even tougher. Hopefully more and more things to fill up the arena, and an effort to get the district to offer more than banks.
 
Ohman said:
True and this is with Edmonton's free reign over concerts coming to Alberta for the most part given the Saddledome's building constraints. Once Calgary's new arena comes online, it's going to get even tougher. Hopefully more and more things to fill up the arena, and an effort to get the district to offer more than banks.
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I disagree, YYC's Fireplace will merely be an "add-on" to the concert circuit. By no means will they "steal" away any concerts away from Rogers. YEG is a money making machine for the scene. Do you honestly and truly feel that the "Fireplace" will be the sole and only destination on the concert circuit in AB? You must live in YYC to have that uninformed opinion....
 
2026 concerts at Rogers Place as of today

January
- The Offspring, Bad Religion
February
- Hardy
- Megadeth, Anthrax, Exodus
- Live, Big Wreck
March
- Goo Goo Dolls, Dashboard Confessional
April
- Lee Brice
May
- Triumph
June
- The Guess Who
- Bailey Zimmerman
July
- no concerts
August
- no concerts
September
- no concerts
October
- no concerts
November
- no concerts
December
- Rush (2 nights)
 
MacLac said:
I disagree, YYC's Fireplace will merely be an "add-on" to the concert circuit. By no means will they "steal" away any concerts away from Rogers. YEG is a money making machine for the scene. Do you honestly and truly feel that the "Fireplace" will be the sole and only destination on the concert circuit in AB? You must live in YYC to have that uninformed opinion....
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Post-COVID tour planning has changed the game. I've been around the industry since Donald K Donald, and can tell you that people I know in the biz at Live Nation and AEG have already openly speculated that the savings of travel and set-up will mean more for Calgary than Edmonton. The bean counters at LN know that it's much easier - and profitable - to do two nights in Calgary than one in both. And the tour route from Seattle - > Vancouver -> Calgary -> Billings/Missoula/Bozeman -> Boise is a lot easier than going 300 kms off track for a single show. Calgary will absolutely steal concerts away from Rogers.
 
I couldn't disagree more with a statement in my entire life than, "Calgary with absolutely steal concerts away from Rogers." With your logic, what's the point of doing shows across Canada - when you can do 10 of them in Toronto,......give me a break....
 
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