What do you think of this project?


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My wildcard prediction is Westrich partners up with OEG and builds a residential tower there. Cheaper and quicker than their other proposal across the street.
 
It would be a waste of the foundation if they build something short here. I remember years ago, during foundation pouring, I recall it being the largest raft slab foundation poured in the city? something like that?
 
It would be a waste of the foundation if they build something short here. I remember years ago, during foundation pouring, I recall it being the largest raft slab foundation poured in the city? something like that?

The lack of underpinning limited the height but it's still good for like 40 stories.
 
The lack of underpinning limited the height but it's still good for like 40 stories.
The Plan was for a min of 50 stories. The slab was smaller than Stantec Tower. Regrettably I did not get that slab. it was supposed to be something like 50-60 70 for the towers.

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^ Could be one of Marriott's other brands -- Series by Marriott with a residential tower would make sense, limited by 44 stories of upward expansion -- 20 hotel and 24 apartment would be my guess. Their current mix in ICE seems to be working well for them. With the new Fan Park on the to-be-built schedule an additional Marriott brand makes sense particularly if they include the land on 104th Street in the mix -- potential for some real creativity downtown.
 
IIIIIFFFFF it is a hotel, I'd guess that it is ALT and a mixed use tower by a major developer/investment group from the east.

But I honestly am throwing darts at a wall.
 
You WANT it to be an ALT hotel but look at Marriott taking over the Universe with over a 50% market share, it HAS to be Marriott, which is not a bad thing……
 
Whatever the brand, no matter to me, it's more that we desperately need a series of modern offerings entering the market to push a few others to convert to apartments or reinvest.

A reminder that a few 'major events' have passed us by or will not come to this city until our hotel selection of 3.5-4*+ has improved.
 
The challenge is that our RevPAR (revenue per available room) is exceptionally low, under 100 if I recall correctly. Our ADR (Avg. Daily Rate) is also very weak and at a level that hoteliers have told me that it's is a spot too low to justify major investments and occupancy continues to fall to somewhere in the mid 50s.

It's a challenge given our market, lack of business travel and WEM drawing people west from potential Downtown properties to boost those numbers.
 

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