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^Why? Isn’t that how it works?
IMO this needed to be a true subway line. Badly. I'd bet the LRT is going to be pushing its capacity limit within a few years. And now that we have the LRT, we're not going to see the necessary transit expansion along this route to accommodate for how many people will flock to the Hurontario corridor in the next 10 years.
 
^Why? Isn’t that how it works?
I think based on previous conversations drum wants to see the whole city getting denser not just the city centre and these couple transit routes. I think one of the concerns is if the rest of the city doesn’t get denser then it will always be a challenge to run transit routes. My take is if transit is important to you then you will choose to live in these few areas and even better MCC could be so dense you just walk most of the time.
 
I haven't gone through the details here, but a map I was looking at the other day really limits what properties are are part of the MTSA zoning and a lot of properties very close to Hurontario happen to be excluded. I'm sure it's political. But I think if any developer challenges it, it would be hard for the city to defend why some properties that close to Hurontario aren't zoned for very high development. In the current market I don't think it'll be an issue, but once new projects start getting underway again.
 
I haven't gone through the details here, but a map I was looking at the other day really limits what properties are are part of the MTSA zoning and a lot of properties very close to Hurontario happen to be excluded. I'm sure it's political. But I think if any developer challenges it, it would be hard for the city to defend why some properties that close to Hurontario aren't zoned for very high development. In the current market I don't think it'll be an issue, but once new projects start getting underway again.
The document linked above in the original post by drum has some more detailed maps from page 108 onwards. It shows the min/max number of stories per block across Mississauga’s MTSAs, where some have recently been increased.

But yes, what’s missing is rationale as to why some areas are so heavily restricted. This one for instance:
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We all know these are “prestigious” neighbourhoods full of NIMBYs, but I’m interested to hear the city explain their way out of this.
 
The document linked above in the original post by drum has some more detailed maps from page 108 onwards. It shows the min/max number of stories per block across Mississauga’s MTSAs, where some have recently been increased.

But yes, what’s missing is rationale as to why some areas are so heavily restricted. This one for instance:
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We all know these are “prestigious” neighbourhoods full of NIMBYs, but I’m interested to hear the city explain their way out of this.
I mean why would we have significant density at the only all day go station in Mississauga? But I believe when I questioned tie a year or so ago I was told not everywhere needs to be Hong Kong.

Once again this is why port credit could never have been the city centre. There’s just too many nimbys.
 
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The document linked above in the original post by drum has some more detailed maps from page 108 onwards. It shows the min/max number of stories per block across Mississauga’s MTSAs, where some have recently been increased.

But yes, what’s missing is rationale as to why some areas are so heavily restricted. This one for instance:
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We all know these are “prestigious” neighbourhoods full of NIMBYs, but I’m interested to hear the city explain their way out of this.
I don’t really see any issue with the old village, south of the railway line. Their are legacy towers interspersed with new tower building, and 2 -10 and 2-15 is not horrible in other areas is not bad. And the 1-4 area just east of the river park is the arena, the Anglican Church and churchyard cemetery, library etc. You have a meld of the older town with the newer, and not all of the newer is towers, or needs to be.

But I share your thoughts on the Hurontario corridor. That does not make sense. Although the Unitarian lands have some historical protections I believe ( but not 100% certain, and this goes back a long time)
 
I don’t really see any issue with the old village, south of the railway line. Their are legacy towers interspersed with new tower building, and 2 -10 and 2-15 is not horrible in other areas is not bad. And the 1-4 area just east of the river park is the arena, the Anglican Church and churchyard cemetery, library etc. You have a meld of the older town with the newer, and not all of the newer is towers, or needs to be.

But I share your thoughts on the Hurontario corridor. That does not make sense. Although the Unitarian lands have some historical protections I believe ( but not 100% certain, and this goes back a long time)
Upon closer inspection, I agree.
 
You guys don’t have a problem with basically 15 floors max at port credit that has all day go train service with the exception of a few towers. Meanwhile they’re proposing 50 at cooksville without all day go train service and 70s at MCC with zero go train service? That’s an interesting perspective.
 
I don't know if there's a better place for this, but the city of Mississauga has released an interim retail development report.

The city is expected to need 5 million more square feet of retail by 2051. It currently has 30 million square feet, with another half million proposed.

The report also notes that retail distribution is uneven in the city, and a lot of existing retail may disappear. Areas like Port Credit and Streetsville are predicted to lose retail in net terms even as they densify. They need to add 1.2 million square feet to meet demand.

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It says incentives have to be deployed to generate new retail spaces and encourage walkability. It doesn't say what those incentives should be, but I imagine that will come in the final report this fall.
 
Mississauga released today its 5-year economic development strategy, as well as its final retail development report, and a plan to expand incentives for office development. I'm still digging into the details. At first glance, the economic development strategy talks a fair bit about streamlining city bureaucracy, buying local, and developing employment lands. As for the retail strategy, I'm a little underwhelmed, because there does not seem to be a lot of new concrete policies proposed. The office development incentives seem nice though.
 
I did a deep dive on the final Mississauga retail development report. Here are some of the key recommendations:

Seek area-specific market research and information that considers the amount, type and location of retail at a finer grain to ensure greater alignment between retail supply and more localized needs, demand and market positioning.

At the municipal level, design an incentive that can be stacked with current incentive programs in Mississauga to encourage mixed use (e.g., Vaughan, through a Community Improvement Plan (CIP), is proposing to use a mix of development charge deferrals, grants and forgivable loans to promote the development of office and non-residential uses).

Recognizing the need for flexibility for landowner and the prime objective to create mixed use communities, the City may consider creating a mechanism to transfer minimum retail requirements between sites within a specified area.
(Note: this means that when replacement retail is required as part of a development, not all retail would have to be built on-site, but could be nearby)

As identified in the Mayor’s Housing Task Force Report as a strategy to make non-residential space more affordable, explore incentives for multi-floor retail to support the OP density bonus policy, which indicates that non-residential uses above the ground floor do not count in a building's height calculation

Re-evaluate or simplify requirements for form and design elements (i.e., entrance requirements, loading areas, etc.) that could compound challenges in developing new retail space.

Through the development of a retail design or an area-specific design manual, the city should seek to encourage and promote flexible retail design (e.g., moveable fixtures and walls, reduction in the use of structural columns and permanent or fixed barriers, adjustable lighting tracks) that support more flexible interior partitioning. This will help preserve opportunity for larger unit formats, in addition to 'micro-retail' units that are more affordable and of less risk from a tenanting perspective.

Advocate support for taxation policy at the provincial level (i.e., explore mixed use retail tax class)

Here is what I would like to see that's not in the report:
- I'm a bit disappointed the tax incentives are being put off for further study. I suppose those might have to wait for that recommended more granular, neighbourhood by neighbourhood study of retail shortages, but I was hoping it would be in this report
- While there's some language about reducing red tape for developers, and ensuring that zoning by-laws allow for retail, there's no specific proposal to re-zone any areas. As a start, I'd like the city to re-zone residential apartment buildings on major streets to mixed use.
- No specific mention of reducing required amenity space in residential buildings, which might free up space for retail. (Though there is a report about amenity space coming to city council soon.)

Lastly, here are some good graphics from the report.

This is the breakdown of how much retail Mississauga needs added in net terms city-wide in the next 5 years and the next 25 years, broken down by type of retail. Note that the city already has 30.5 million square feet of retail. The chart below shows that it needs to add 2 million square feet in the near future to keep up with demand from a growing population.
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This shows how construction costs in Canada have risen, expressed as a percentage change over the previous year. Construction costs have gone up from the previous year almost every year, which makes retail construction more expensive.
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