ShonTron
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Funny how there’s no big view of Flemingdon Park Station. (I wonder why?)
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A 6264
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CityNews website just posted a quick story on today's announcement. Points stated, and my reaction:
The province will not commit to an opening date for the new subway line currently under construction in Toronto.
But Metrolinx CEO Michael Lindsay says they plan to open the Ontario Line by the early 2030s, potentially later than the 2031 target.
Here we go again. The target date was 2030, then 2031, now it's rescinded. Also, Scarborough subway extension's target was 2030, now rescinded. BTW, "potentially" means definitely, right?
A couple of times I have said I would not be surprised if OL opens as late as 2040. That was not intended as an insult, it's just a more realistic estimate, considering the size of the project, and how many things could go wrong.
Last time I said that, someone objected vehemently and demanded that I provided sources for my opinion. Putting aside that opinions don't work that way, there is no such thing as a TTC target date that does not move. So that's my justification.
(I'll take that back, the Scarborough busway plans changed recently, moving the date earlier!)
Lindsay says the testing phase of new transit lines can affect opening dates.
If the opening date had no time allocated for testing, then yeah. Did it not, and if so, why not?
He also says the Don Valley Parkway may be shut down in order to build bridges for the new subway.
Well I should hope so! I don't think we were expecting to drive under it while a they're lifting a whole bridge onto the supports! And again, "may" means will. Why do they use words they don't mean!
The province will not commit to an opening date for the new subway line currently under construction in Toronto.
But Metrolinx CEO Michael Lindsay says they plan to open the Ontario Line by the early 2030s, potentially later than the 2031 target.
Here we go again. The target date was 2030, then 2031, now it's rescinded. Also, Scarborough subway extension's target was 2030, now rescinded. BTW, "potentially" means definitely, right?
A couple of times I have said I would not be surprised if OL opens as late as 2040. That was not intended as an insult, it's just a more realistic estimate, considering the size of the project, and how many things could go wrong.
Last time I said that, someone objected vehemently and demanded that I provided sources for my opinion. Putting aside that opinions don't work that way, there is no such thing as a TTC target date that does not move. So that's my justification.
(I'll take that back, the Scarborough busway plans changed recently, moving the date earlier!)
Lindsay says the testing phase of new transit lines can affect opening dates.
If the opening date had no time allocated for testing, then yeah. Did it not, and if so, why not?
He also says the Don Valley Parkway may be shut down in order to build bridges for the new subway.
Well I should hope so! I don't think we were expecting to drive under it while a they're lifting a whole bridge onto the supports! And again, "may" means will. Why do they use words they don't mean!
A 6264
Active Member
I'm sure they could have drawn it at a weird angle to avoid showing what's right behind it!
hawc
Senior Member
Huh? How is he running them into the ground? Didn't he earmark $70B they're responsible for? I wish I worked somewhere with $70B flowing through it. These are not cash starved places.
A 6264
Active Member
I notice the big bus lot with extra platforms to the south (nearer to the viewer) and with places for buses to turn around, has been reduced, and what looks like parkland restored between the bus corridor and Eglinton. Is that really the plan? I recall they said the infamous standing stone would not be coming back because there would be no room for it, so I presumed there would be no big open space like the one shown here.Don Valley Station:
Aerial View:
Also, the HH Angus building is almost right up against the sidewalk along Eglinton. The area for that little forest they're showing, just isn't there. I think there is some fantasy in these pictures.
eglinton1661
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reinventingthewheel
Active Member
Someone was clearly asked to add catenary in the last minute before release:Thorncliffe Park Station:
Main Entrance:
Thorncliffe Park Station Aerial View:
One beam phasing right through the train while another appears to be tucked underneath the roof of the mosque in the background. Weird Escher vibes…
T3G
Senior Member
Getting a cash injection of $70B (and the criminally high fares they charge) doesn't seem to be helping with their complete inability to deliver basic service. See also:
GO Transit Fleet Equipment and other
If they can stop their locomotives from inhaling snow they are ok. ok so they may be reliable but will they still be a trusted source.....🤔
GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)
What in the name of hell is happening with GO buses lately? There were no less than 3 no shows to/from Milton this week, one 22 that then continued back east as a 21 that never left Oakville and the replacement bus didn't join the line until around Meadowvale on the 21, and another this...
GO was a LOT better pre-pandemic. Now, with more people living in the GTA, they run less service and that service can't be counted on.
ciceror
Active Member
so from the rendering, it seems like the colour of the line will be a light purple instead of light blue? yet the trains have a blue strip design to them
ChesterCopperpot
Senior Member
Maybe not in the images released today but there is one
Ontario Line: Flemingdon Park Station | ?m | 2s | Metrolinx | HDR
Remove crane from this thread, there are under the Minton portal thread I beleive. @Paclo @interchange42
81-717
Active Member
Interesting model of bus in the render here...
Northern Light
Superstar
I indicated some time ago that the O/L was tracking well behind (measured in years); it is not tracking 2040 behind, though.
APTA-2048
Senior Member
T3G said as much already. But GO peaked in 2018. Now we no longer have 15 minute train service off peak, have daily bus trip cancellations, have broken washrooms, have outsourced customer service that is almost useless, and the handling of service this winter seems particularly poor.
Erich Nelson
Active Member
I notice the Thorncliffe Park street renderings only have a cycle track along the north side of Overlea blvd. The Millwood/Overlea intersection was designed to have a cycle track on both sides of Overlea (pic below), and was already started on. I wonder if this is an intentional change.
nfitz
Superstar
To me that looks like the same shade of purple they shown previously in other documents.