[urbanclient]

One of the most pro-subway countries in the world. Where they understand the importance of speed in transit.

Yes. Yes.

Where they aren't handicapped by labour unions.

Are we sure having weak labour unions is a good thing?

 

[nfitz]

Where they aren't handicapped by labour unions.

Good job that communists don't believe in labour unions.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Good job that communists don't believe in labour unions.

The contradiction between the communist ideology of worker empowerment and the historical suppression of independent labor unions in communist states is a core subject of political debate. In practice, communist states have typically opposed independent labor unions, replacing them with state-controlled organizations rather than empowering workers to form their own, as seen in the Soviet Union and contemporary China
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But that's getting off topic.

 

[mikey7767]

Good job that communists don't believe in labour unions.

Either way, my first two points stand. One of the most pro-subway countries I know. And building to be time efficient and fast. I can't even imagine them building stuff like the Finch West LRT or anything similar outside of maybe one or two examples that exist that I don't know about.

 

[hw621]

Either way, my first two points stand. One of the most pro-subway countries I know. And building to be time efficient and fast. I can't even imagine them building stuff like the Finch West LRT or anything similar outside of maybe one or two examples that exist that I don't know about.

If we want to build like China, we need to copy the whole political and economic systems, and import the labor force...

 

[zang]

If we want to build like China, we need to copy the whole political and economic systems, and import the labor force...

And get used to early infrastructure failures and the deaths of construction workers.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Metrolinx ‘firewall’ blocking Finch LRT location data from transit apps​

From https://www.torontotoday.ca/local/city-hall/metrolinx-firewall-blocking-finch-lrt-location-data-transit-apps-12025338

Locked out of its own data, the TTC admits Google Maps and popular transit apps are forced to rely on inaccurate scheduled times for the Finch West LRT

Wonder if the LRT location data be available on Doug Ford's phone? Would we need a judicial warrant to access to real times of light rail locations?

 

[hw621]

And get used to early infrastructure failures and the deaths of construction workers.

If we copy their system, you wouldn't hear about these...

 

[nfitz]

Either way, my first two points stand. One of the most pro-subway countries I know. And building to be time efficient and fast. I can't even imagine them building stuff like the Finch West LRT or anything similar outside of maybe one or two examples that exist that I don't know about.

I'm not sure which system you are referring to. Though hopefully you aren't including backwards tyrannical military dictatorship and the citizens that support them!

 

[Bordercollie]

Signals Upgraded for Finch West Line 6: Another False Start? | UrbanToronto https://share.google/0NQt3igqXOtnNfbwH

I don't understand, if the queen streetcar can hit 50kmph for stops that are shorter than the finch LRT in mixed traffic why can't the Line 6 trains reach this speed between stops. Why do they crawl along at 30kmph?

That curve near Humber is. Nowhere near the curves that legacy system navigates on a regular basis at speeds faster than 6kmph.

Yes the vehicles are different but that cannot be why trains need to travel at 30kmph on a straight section of track.

Is this just incompetence?

 

[hw621]

Signals Upgraded for Finch West Line 6: Another False Start? | UrbanToronto https://share.google/0NQt3igqXOtnNfbwH

I don't understand, if the queen streetcar can hit 50kmph for stops that are shorter than the finch LRT in mixed traffic why can't the Line 6 trains reach this speed between stops. Why do they crawl along at 30kmph?

That curve near Humber is. Nowhere near the curves that legacy system navigates on a regular basis at speeds faster than 6kmph.

Yes the vehicles are different but that cannot be why trains need to travel at 30kmph on a straight section of track.

Is this just incompetence?

One would wonder what ML is hiding for those vehicles...

 

[EnviroTO]

The wheel profile on the Eglinton LRT seems to be very similar to the profile that the TTC uses for the subway.

Yes, how is a wheel that is supposed to be angled towards the center of the rail making contact with that much of the width of the rail when the rail is new?? It also looks like sand and/or salt just sits on the rail.

I'm curious where that stray bolt came from on the Eglinton LRT

 

[lastcommodore]

I diverted my commute one hour and have taken my very first ride on 6 FW leaving Humber 12:02 EB, arrive 12:40
*Update: Turns out I lost less time than I would have if I took my usual commute, given Lakeshore West had a serious incident causing significant delays.

Will do some more analysis later on the data as ive taken a gpx, incl. theoretical times, but initial points:

38 mins end to end. 16.3kmh avg
18 greens and 5 reds. (Ped crossing not included- Green) Two greens were clipped (Tram slowed for a red then light turned green)
Every single red was clipped, followed by the left turn phase. All reds could have been avoided if left turns ran first, but then we would have caught some 5 reds waiting for lefts to go first... to literally nobody's surprise who paid attention to @reaperexpress, moving the left turn phase to after through traffic doesnt increase green time... We need phase rotation

Additional thoughts:
- I like the foamer window.
- The trams dont seem to take the humber curve nicely.
- Smooth, but feels more like rail thats been roughed in for some time, like on the streetcar network, not new rail like line 5
- Operators are incredibly cautious with speed. They are usually slowed down well before the intersection. Does the station slowzone apply to the the platform on the opposite direction???
- Whoever thought to install a big handbar right in front of the screens should have their sanity checked.

About that analysis.

I compared real case I had with 3 ideal cases.
1. No red light or red clipping (Slow for red but turns green before stop)
2. Same as 1, with no intersection speed restriction (Remove all slowdowns crossing green intersections)
3. Same as 2, with the untimely demise of Stevenson, Duncanwoods, and Driftwood.

THE HEADLINE:
- 39m18s minutes current, 15.9kmh
1. NO REDS: 31m6s, 20.1kmh (+26% speed from base-- This alone puts the 6 faster than the bus at all times)
2. + NO INTERSECTION RESTRICTIONS: 29m59s, 20.8kmh (+31% speed from base, +3% improvement)
3. + DEATH OF STEVENSON, DUNCANWOODS, DRIFTWOOD*: 27m44s, 22.5kmh (42% speed from base, 6% improvement)

Important caveats:
1. GPS on a phone can be a little rough sometimes.
2. I believe i was very conservative on the intersection restrictions and i underestimated the benefits of removing it. This policy not only affects crossing greens, but also crossing platforms parallel on the other track (!?) and slows vehicles down before the stop at all, which is very difficult to gauge and fix from GPS points. I would probably bump this up to maybe 6% improvement just by gut feefees.
3. Only 6% improvement from nuking stevenson, duncan and drift surprised me.

To add onto the great work and graph by Steve Munro,

Edit: My original post accidentally had this graph above centred at 25 min, not 30 min. Thank you to @urbanclient for pointing it out. Silly mistake on my part.

 

[TwoWheelPoli]

Remember the recent reports on how Torontonians can't get real time updates on Line 6 arrival times because of a "Metrolinx firewall"? TTCriders finally launched a petition calling on Metrolinx to release the data. Please sign and share.

Tell Metrolinx to Release the Data

www.ttcriders.ca

 

[hw621]

It has been very quiet. Any changes on the line?