Here’s some drive pics of Islington and Kipling stations in the West end future extension

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Here's a new video from ML showing the elevated line construction


(not being a construction engineer....) The erection of the pillars seems fairly efficient and straightforward, but I'm struck by the amount of effort and scaffold erection to pour the spans. Is this a normal/preferred technique?

Probably I'm spoiled by the beauty of the more complicated method used to place the pre-cast spans on the Davenport flyover.... is Eglinton West a siimpler/ more ccommon process, or is it extreme?

- Paul
 
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It was concluded, earlier in the thread, that the profile of the bridge changes too many times, as well as curving along Eglinton Ave, for it to make sense to use pre-casting or to attempt balanced cantilever construction (see Westey's post on that in the Ontario Line thread). The cross section of the bridge varies (W to E): 2 isolated bridges, transition, 2-track width bridge, transition, 3-track width bridge, 2 isolated bridges.
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Extension to Renforth will have a huge impact on transit in Mississauga. It's will be their Kennedy station, intercepting many riders along Eglinton and the Transitway heading to Kipling. It will also connect to other busy routes, 7 Airport, 39 Britannia, and 57 Courtneypark. Of course there are also GO buses there.

Perhaps most importantly it opens up the possibility on-street LRT along Eglinton in Mississauga, and thus justify the choice of light rail instead of regular subway along Eglinton. Eglinton recently passed Burnhamthorpe and Bloor in ridership, and may even pass Dundas. Derry already passed Dundas and the city already studying light rail there. Unlike the Derry LRT, an Eglinton Crosstown extension into Mississauga would connect Hurontario to the TTC rapid transit network.
 
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Extension to Renforth will have a huge impact on transit in Mississauga. It's will be their Kennedy station, intercepting many riders along Eglinton and the Transitway heading to Kipling. It will also connect to other busy routes, 7 Airport, 39 Britannia, and 57 Courtneypark. Of course there are also GO buses there.

Perhaps most importantly it opens up the possibility on-street LRT along Eglinton in Mississauga, and thus justify the choice of light rail instead of regular subway along Eglinton. Eglinton recently passed Burnhamthorpe and Bloor in ridership, and may even pass Dundas. Derry already passed Dundas and the city already studying light rail there. Unlike the Derry LRT, an Eglinton Crosstown extension into Mississauga would connect Hurontario to the TTC rapid transit network.
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Renforth is interesting because Metrolinx's station map seems to suggest that there will not be a Line 5 extension to Pearson Airport, despite what we occasionally hear from the government, and the media. Maybe Metrolinx will install a curve for Line 5 to head up Commerce Boulevard? Right now, I am thinking it will be a separate line to the airport from Renforth Station.

I could see a new Mississauga BRT west of Eastgate Parkway. An extention of Line 5 deep into Mississauga might become complex legally due to how Metrolinx has set everything up. Would there be operator changeover at Renforth from the TTC to MiWay?

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Renforth is interesting because Metrolinx's station map seems to suggest that there will not be a Line 5 extension to Pearson Airport, despite what we occasionally hear from the government, and the media. Maybe Metrolinx will install a curve for Line 5 to head up Commerce Boulevard? Right now, I am thinking it will be a separate line to the airport from Renforth Station.

I could see a new Mississauga BRT west of Eastgate Parkway. An extention of Line 5 deep into Mississauga might become complex legally due to how Metrolinx has set everything up. Would there be operator changeover at Renforth from the TTC to MiWay?

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Early indications from Metrolinx show the airport extension running up Explorer, rather than Commerce.
 
Oh I thought Pearson was already included in this phase, I didn't realize it was another phase. Just to clarify, I was suggesting extending LRT along Eglinton into Mississauga as a branch, not as an alternative to Pearson.

If you think about how both transit riders and motorists are forced to pass through Renforth (this section of 401 is the busiest), I think it is worth some extra attention.
 
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Extension to Renforth will have a huge impact on transit in Mississauga. It's will be their Kennedy station, intercepting many riders along Eglinton and the Transitway heading to Kipling. It will also connect to other busy routes, 7 Airport, 39 Britannia, and 57 Courtneypark. Of course there are also GO buses there.
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Makes sense

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Perhaps most importantly it opens up the possibility on-street LRT along Eglinton in Mississauga, and thus justify the choice of light rail instead of regular subway along Eglinton. Eglinton recently passed Burnhamthorpe and Bloor in ridership, and may even pass Dundas. Derry already passed Dundas and the city already studying light rail there. Unlike the Derry LRT, an Eglinton Crosstown extension into Mississauga would connect Hurontario to the TTC rapid transit network.
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That doesn't add up when you consider the constrained capacity of the LRT when faced with the additional passengers going from the heart of Mississauga to Toronto in that hypothetical.
 
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Makes sense


That doesn't add up when you consider the constrained capacity of the LRT when faced with the additional passengers going from the heart of Mississauga to Toronto in that hypothetical.
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Well this is years from now, so hopefully by that time the LRT will operate with 3-car trains every 2 minutes instead of 2-car trains every 5 minutes.
 
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LRT will operate with 3-car trains every 2 minutes instead of 2-car trains every 5 minutes.
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First off, 3-car trains won't be as much capacity as you think. For distances like Mississauga City Centre to Toronto (Cedarvale station is already 22 km), better solutions would be metro, express metro or RER even. An at grade LRT would be pushing commutes to be too long time-wise, while being sorely short in capacity.

Second off, you're overestimating how frequent trains can feasibly run on a surface line that has unprotected crossings. The LRT would be subject to bunching caused by (the hopefully rare) red lights and manual operations (not ATC). Last I checked they were expecting 3 minute and 10 second headways by 2037.

April 2022: "But the TTC is now in discussion with Metrolinx about starting at Level 6, under which trains would run as often as every 3 minutes and 10 seconds. Metrolinx proposed the higher service levels, which would be a major change — the LRT wasn’t expected to reach Level 6 for another 15 years."
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How often should the Eglinton LRT run? TTC, Metrolinx disagree

Difference over LRT service levels proves an early test of province and city’s ability to get along.
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Lastly, they're already running at headways as low as 4'04" before full opening, although it seems that terminal recovery times are longer than scheduled headways (service summary):

Transit Planning

The TTC has two major objectives in planning its transit services: to maximize mobility within the City of Toronto; to ensure that transit services are efficient and cost-effective.
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Took this photo at Eglinton and Scarlett while riding the Loop Trail on Sunday. The Eglinton Crosstown Western Extension seems to be coming along nicely.

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The views from the train are going to be stunning, especially in the fall. Line 5 really will be a demonstration of all the machinations of LRT: at surface, underground, and elevated.
 
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