[nfitz]

I've been kind of out of the loop on this project. I drove past Eglinton and Laird to the DVP and noticed some work near the Don Valley area was starting. Was it every determined what the final plan is for the crossing? will it be a bridge or underground?

Bridge in centre of Eglinton, leading to a surface stop at Leslie.

I expect what you are seeing it the construction of the portal (and TBM launch site) west of Leslie and east of Brentcliffe.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Just read this morning in SAL column that the Eglinton Connects proposal is proposing to reduce traffic to a single lane on Eglinton - is that right? Can someone point me to a proposal document that shows this?

If this is true, its sort of madness. I am a proponent of the LRT on Eglinton and a reduction to 2 lanes, but reducing to 1 lane will be a nightmare on this street.

For the 1.3 people inside each automobile, I guess it could discourage them from using that automobile and switch to public transit or bicycle.

 

[TOareaFan]

Fixed your post a bit...1.3 people can't fit on one bicycle

For the 1.3 people inside each automobile, I guess it could discourage them from using that automobile and switch to public transit or bicycles.

 

[BMO]

Bridge in centre of Eglinton, leading to a surface stop at Leslie.

I expect what you are seeing it the construction of the portal (and TBM launch site) west of Leslie and east of Brentcliffe.

Yes the exit portal, looks like stuff is coming along. Based on what I saw I assumed it was going to be a bridge but wasn't going to rule out an emergency shaft or something lol Thanks for the clarification.

 

[nfitz]

Yes the exit portal, looks like stuff is coming along. Based on what I saw I assumed it was going to be a bridge but wasn't going to rule out an emergency shaft or something lol Thanks for the clarification.

Basically, they ended up going in the east, with the original plan from the 2010 (or thereabouts) EA. Ultimately, I think they were afraid of council doing something wacko given how much fuss the pre-consultation about removing the Ferrand and Leslie stops was creating.

 

[howl]

Basically, they ended up going in the east, with the original plan from the 2010 (or thereabouts) EA. Ultimately, I think they were afraid of council doing something wacko given how much fuss the pre-consultation about removing the Ferrand and Leslie stops was creating.

Working backwards - they need to have the line operating in 2020. I've been told it will take at least four year to construct Yonge station so work needs to be started by 2016. They can't really start working on Yonge Station until the boring machine is through the headwall at Holly Street. The eastern tunnel will take the better part of two years to bore (with all the portal prep time etc.) so the contract for the eastern tunnel boring must start in 2014. They had to know where the boring machine was starting before they awarded the contract. Therefore they had to lock down the final design for anything that affected the eastern tunnel designs by the end of 2013. As such, the critical point in the timeline was last fall since any major changes in the design would have to go through a re-approval process with might have taken a year or more. In other words, add a year to the discussion about the Leslie Street stop and you add a year to the opening day of the line. Metrolinx delayed the decision as long as they could, but in the end the disagreement meant they were stuck with the approved option as their only choice.

 

[nfitz]

Working backwards - they need to have the line operating in 2020. I've been told it will take at least four year to construct Yonge station so work needs to be started by 2016. They can't really start working on Yonge Station until the boring machine is through the headwall at Holly Street.

Surely they can start working on Yonge station at the same time they start building the extraction pits for the 4 TBMs east and west of Yonge. I don't see why they can't work in between the extraction pits before tunnelling is completed. Particularly as much of the work is moving the platforms for the existing Eglinton station.

Your assessment makes sense though. And 4 years seems reasonable Quite frankly, I suspect 2020 is optimistic, and it will be more like 2022 ... similiar to how the Spadina subway opening for 2015 is now 2017.

 

[ehlow]

Surely they can start working on Yonge station at the same time they start building the extraction pits for the 4 TBMs east and west of Yonge. I don't see why they can't work in between the extraction pits before tunnelling is completed. Particularly as much of the work is moving the platforms for the existing Eglinton station.

Your assessment makes sense though. And 4 years seems reasonable Quite frankly, I suspect 2020 is optimistic, and it will be more like 2022 ... similiar to how the Spadina subway opening for 2015 is now 2017.

I thought Spadina ext is still scheduled to open in 2016?

http://www.ttc.ca/Spadina/About_the_Project/FAQ.jsp

 

[nfitz]

I thought Spadina ext is still scheduled to open in 2016?

http://www.ttc.ca/Spadina/About_the_Project/FAQ.jsp

Late 2016. With very dire warning for months from TTC on how very behind 3 of the stations are, and lots of in camera meetings to discuss the very poor performance of the Pioneer Village contractor Walsh Construction.

There's been noise for a few weeks that an another postponement of the opening is coming. Whether to the entire line, or just some station openings isn't clear.

 

[BurlOak]

Basically, they ended up going in the east, with the original plan from the 2010 (or thereabouts) EA. Ultimately, I think they were afraid of council doing something wacko given how much fuss the pre-consultation about removing the Ferrand and Leslie stops was creating.

Like everything else, the decision to go with the original plan in the East was political.

 

[nfitz]

Like everything else, the decision to go with the original plan in the East was political.

Does that mean the decision not to go with the original plan in the west was political?

Though by definition can a decision by a public body ever not be political? Isn't it like saying that a cat is feline?

 

[BurlOak]

Just read this morning in SAL column that the Eglinton Connects proposal is proposing to reduce traffic to a single lane on Eglinton - is that right? Can someone point me to a proposal document that shows this?

If this is true, its sort of madness. I am a proponent of the LRT on Eglinton and a reduction to 2 lanes, but reducing to 1 lane will be a nightmare on this street.

Maybe they will reduce it to 3 lanes, but then add an elevated portion of two express lanes (1 in each direction). This elevated portion would run where 2 lanes are planned. The third centre lane would be used for turns and also to transfer from the upper level back to ground level. This should make cyclists, pedestrians and motor vehicles all happy.

 

[ehlow]

Rob Ford heckled by shirtless protesters on Eglinton West
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...irtless-protesters-on-eglinton-west-1.2699744

It's about Eglinton Connects..

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

Yes, apparently RoFo was having a press conference saying that Eglinton Connects will reduce Eglinton to 1 Lane each way.

If he tries this shit again in Midtown, I would be willing to help organize a protest against him.

 

[ehlow]

I don't understand this:
http://www.cp24.com/news/city-defen...nt-lane-reductions-not-part-of-plan-1.1902502

In particular Keesmat said the city does not plan to shrink Eglinton Avenue down to one lane of traffic in each direction.
“There’s nowhere along the corridor that’s going down to one lane,” Keesmat said.


Read more: http://www.cp24.com/news/city-defen...ions-not-part-of-plan-1.1902502#ixzz36tNVH0NN

Yet the mega map here:
http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=44ae86664ea71410VgnVCM10000071d60f89RCRD

Shows 1 lane in each direction & a turn lane between Avenue & Mt Pleasant. Maybe they changed the plan?