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innsertnamehere said:
Its the same thing in stouffville, many moving out further to Uxbridge and port perry as they miss the "old stouffville".

Those small towns on the edge of the GTA are essentially entirely white (97-99%), and a lot of people get upset about it when that changes.

I went to Halifax over the summer, and honestly missed the diversity of Toronto. I dont get the attitudes of these people, but they exist.
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Is stouffville really becoming more diverse? I know they were the second fastest growing area out side Downtown and Milton but that is surprising. I guess Markham is getting to be too expensive or what?
 
They're actually building a new northbound ramp from Eg to Allen Rd:
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http://thecrosstown.ca/news-media/w...-allen-road-ramp-construction-to-be-shifted-t
 
the 9th line bus already operates in Stouffville, but it is still far too small of a town for any real transit service. the 9th line bus is all it really needs.
 
Did I read it right on today's headline that the Eglinton line has a stop at both Vic Park and Pharmacy, 350m apart, and then Lebovic, 500m away, and then Warden 350m away?

Are planners completely insane and thinking that stretch is as dense as Yonge between Queen and Bloor?

What we need is Don Mills, some stop, Vic Park, Warden, Birchmount and Kennedy, 6 stops, instead of 11.

When all the stops on 512 makes it faster to take Subway from St Clair station to Y/B, take the Bloor line to Keele and then a bus to St Clair/Keele than simply taking the 512, we know the stops on St Clair is excessive. Now these stops on Eglinton East are simply obsessive-compulsively insane.
 
ksun said:
Did I read it right on today's headline that the Eglinton line has a stop at both Vic Park and Pharmacy, 350m apart, and then Lebovic, 500m away, and then Warden 350m away?
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Why is this a surprise, given that's what's been discussed in detail in this thread, in the EA, and on the project website for at least 5 years?

It's surface LRT. Stops are cheap. Victoria Park, Pharmacy, and Warden all have intersecting bus routes. You could convince me that Lebovic is excessive, with the current streetscape, but otherwise, it's 800 metres from Pharmacy to Warden. Didn't we alrady debat this to death though? When we come down to it, it's an average 400 metre stop spacing.

ksun said:
Are planners completely insane and thinking that stretch is as dense as Yonge between Queen and Bloor?

What we need is Don Mills, some stop, Vic Park, Warden, Birchmount and Kennedy, 6 stops, instead of 11.

When all the stops on 512 makes it faster to take Subway from St Clair station to Y/B, take the Bloor line to Keele and then a bus to St Clair/Keele than simply taking the 512, we know the stops on St Clair is excessive.
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The 512 spacing is 250 metres from Gunns Loop to St. Clair station. Two subways and a bus? I think you exaggerate. The streetcar travel time at this time of day is 26 minutes compared to 39 minutes on the subway/bus. It's 28 minutes at 5 pm compared to 37 minutes on the subway/bus (yeah, because the Yonge line moves better in rush hour ... right ...).

I think you are mistaking operation issues to design.

ksun said:
Now these stops on Eglinton East are simply obsessive-compulsively insane.
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Obsessive-compulsively insane. Hmm.
 
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One stop could meet VP and Pharmacy half way and call it Eglinton Town Centre. The busses for those streets can also detour towards it.
 
ksun said:
Did I read it right on today's headline that the Eglinton line has a stop at both Vic Park and Pharmacy, 350m apart, and then Lebovic, 500m away, and then Warden 350m away?

Are planners completely insane and thinking that stretch is as dense as Yonge between Queen and Bloor?

What we need is Don Mills, some stop, Vic Park, Warden, Birchmount and Kennedy, 6 stops, instead of 11.

When all the stops on 512 makes it faster to take Subway from St Clair station to Y/B, take the Bloor line to Keele and then a bus to St Clair/Keele than simply taking the 512, we know the stops on St Clair is excessive. Now these stops on Eglinton East are simply obsessive-compulsively insane.
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OK firstly, I don't disagree that a few stops on the east section could be removed or combined.

However, right off the bat, please don't pretend that this is comparable to St Clair.

St Clair:
Avg stop spacing: 250 m. Source: http://torontoist.com/2010/11/rocket_talk_how_come_st_clair_streetcars_stop_so_much/
Avg speed: 14.5 km/h. Source: http://stevemunro.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/RouteSpeeds201010.pdf

Eglinton east surface section:
Avg stop spacing: ~650 m (6km from Ferrand to Kennedy station, 9 stations east of Ferrand)
Avg speed: 22-25 km/h. Source: http://thecrosstown.ca/sites/defaul...l-design-options-sections-2.1-through-2-6.pdf

Even though a few spacings are only 350m, there's also spacing like Bermondsey to Vic Park at 900m, Warden to Birchmount at 850m, where the vehicle will be moving quite fast.
 
salsa said:
Let's hope there will be proper transit priority signals unlike St. Clair.
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As I mentioned on another thread, while yes I hope there's transit priority that works, it's actually not as necessary in my opinion.

The reason is that many of the intersections give Eglinton the green light most of the time, decreasing the probability a vehicle travelling on Eglinton would see a red. They are often intersections with very small roads or entrances into parking lots of shopping centres.

At least, that's my experience from driving along that stretch. It's usually pretty fast to drive along when there isn't traffic, due to the traffic lights being far apart and giving green to Eglinton most of the time.
 
ksun said:
Did I read it right on today's headline that the Eglinton line has a stop at both Vic Park and Pharmacy, 350m apart, and then Lebovic, 500m away, and then Warden 350m away?

Are planners completely insane and thinking that stretch is as dense as Yonge between Queen and Bloor?

What we need is Don Mills, some stop, Vic Park, Warden, Birchmount and Kennedy, 6 stops, instead of 11.

When all the stops on 512 makes it faster to take Subway from St Clair station to Y/B, take the Bloor line to Keele and then a bus to St Clair/Keele than simply taking the 512, we know the stops on St Clair is excessive. Now these stops on Eglinton East are simply obsessive-compulsively insane.
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It is not faster to take the subway to Keele from Yonge and St. Clair to get to Keele and St. Clair. Not even close.
 
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I have gotton on the streetcar at St Clair West and just to get to Christie takes 10 min with having to wait for all those left hand turns. I find it hard to believe it takes 26 min to go across to Gunns Road. St. Clair to Y&B is about 5 min on the subway. B&Y to Keele about 15 min. I use to take the subway from Bloor and Jane to Yonge and Bloor every morning and night and it use to take 17 min to go east. Jane is 2 stops west of Keele I think. When you do the math that means from B&Y to keele subway is 15 min so a total of 20 min from St Clair and Yonge to Keele subway. Of course there is the time to transfer at Y&B to get onto the Bloor line and then at Keele to get onto the bus.

There are too many stops on St Clair but this is about Eglinton and I can understand the fear of some useless stops along this route
 
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